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Title: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download *Fixed Download 3/14
Post by: ALT2870 on August 05, 2015, 11:17 PM
ALT's Arrow Suspended Set



Latest Update (http://www.shyguysworld.com/index.php/topic,17757.msg420857.html#msg420857)


Current Version: Alpha 1.0

Includes: Pole Supports (version 1.0, pole type only), Footers (version 1.0, pole type only)

In Development: Lift Hill Supports

Future Releases: Lift hill accessories, car guides, catwalks, brake covers


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Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Coaster Designs on August 06, 2015, 03:47 AM
I really waited so long for this! Keep on working man!  :up:
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Kinderly on August 06, 2015, 07:17 AM
It would be very good to smooth out those edges on the round part of the pole, but other than that it's looking really good so far. Do you have plans to make footers as well?
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 06, 2015, 10:34 AM
I really waited so long for this! Keep on working man!  :up:

Glad to see someone else that has been waiting for this. :)

It would be very good to smooth out those edges on the round part of the pole, but other than that it's looking really good so far. Do you have plans to make footers as well?


Ya, I'm trying to figure out how to do that... Footers are definitely planned. :D
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Parallax on August 06, 2015, 10:48 AM
Use the eraser tool. Hold CTRL and erase the lines you want to smooth. Or if there are a lot of lines, just select everything you want, right click, "Soften/Smooth Edges" and then adjust the slider to how you want it.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 06, 2015, 11:32 AM
Thanks, I moved up to 30 sides but I'll bring it back down to 20 and soften.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 06, 2015, 01:31 PM
Thanks again Parallax for the help, here is the final version:

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0066_zpsbux6nobj.png)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0068_zpslswuhxbx.png)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0069_zps9ajg3ky8.png)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0070_zpshj07ue5v.png)

Next up is curves. If anyone really is interested, I'm streaming live on Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/ALT2870
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Simtanic8 on August 06, 2015, 04:08 PM
I'm actually very happy that this is in the works. The swinger coaster is not something that is used too often, so this may bring it back to life. The supports look great, especially now that the sides were smoothed.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Grrt on August 06, 2015, 05:44 PM
Looks awesome! I've always strayed away from swinger rides cause the supports never looked plausible enough for me but hopefully this can change that!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 06, 2015, 10:02 PM
Thanks guys, that is exactly why I'm doing this. It's a shame you can't bank the turns but what else can you do? Anyway, did someone order curves?

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0071_zpsmpd837eg.png)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0073_zpsdoraq3dt.png)

They will come in all three styles so you can mix it up. The outside curves will come in groups of three.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0072_zpsahrju9we.png)

I've started the more complicated work on the medium curve but that's all for tonight. Thank you guys for your continued support. :)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 09, 2015, 11:58 PM
Hey guys, was using Sketchup 2013, the Pro trial ran out of course but it seems there is no option to continue as a normal general use version. I've been trying 8, 2014, and 2015 but even with the updated set of tools no luck it seems. If someone has 2013 laying around I greatly appreciate if you could share, otherwise this project in on indefinite hold  :(
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: coasterfreak53 on August 10, 2015, 06:39 AM
Uninstall sketchup from your computer.. redownload the free version you're wanting.. (non-pro versions.)

 I had used pro years ago, and it expired, i just uninstalled all the contents of sketchup and re-installed the non-pro versions.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 10, 2015, 08:47 AM
Problem is I did download the free version, but the download link still pointed to the pro version. Can't find another link to the free version...
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 10, 2015, 05:20 PM
:whistling:

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0074_zpsrw8kep8j.png)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/-2015-aug-11-001_zpsyetnyfre.jpg)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Gravquian on August 10, 2015, 07:39 PM
^ ...
 
Try this link. It has near  all versions, in several lingos.
http://www.sketchup.com/download/all
 
Hope it gets you where you want.. :)
 
*Edit*
If you can wait til tomorrow eve... I've made a rar of non-pro SU-2013.
It is ruffly 72mb (rar file). I can upload to a temp file share site.
If you still want/need it.
*End Edit*
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 10, 2015, 08:28 PM
*Edit*
If you can wait til tomorrow eve... I've made a rar of non-pro SU-2013.
It is ruffly 72mb (rar file). I can upload to a temp file share site.
If you still want/need it.
*End Edit*

That would be great, I was able to get 2015 up and running but some things don't work still. In good news basic pieces are done. Below is a picture with the typical support config. Inside pieces are also included.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/CA/Shot0075_zpsqdl0qsyk.png)

I always like feedback, here is a alpha version of what has been made thus far. As usual drop in your style themed folder and you find it in walls, pieces are specifically grouped under walls misc. (ALT's Arrow Suspended Set)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0b7kcKkANT_cHI3LTF2WTAtNk0

Next up are the slop pieces including the dreaded helix's. As always, thanks for your support. :)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Gravquian on August 11, 2015, 08:01 PM
ALT,
 
Regarding the SU-2013 file...
I didn't want to hijack your thread (or such).
 
So I opened a new thread at:
http://www.shyguysworld.com/index.php/topic,17791.0.html
 
Hope it works as intended for you.
.
On Topic:
 Those supports are looking very good so far. Nice work.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Tijjer on August 12, 2015, 08:25 PM
The supports are looking really good.  Excited for the finished product!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: toofpikk on August 13, 2015, 09:35 AM
Very nice. My main fear is that there are too many supports clustered together no matter how good they look. Maybe if you tried an alternate amount using 2 for every 3 you have there it may look more realistic.

Seriously love what you're doing, may have to make a swinger after this!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 13, 2015, 11:02 AM
I was actually worried more about not having enough. :P You can see below just how many there are. :o

(http://purecoaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/flight-deck-01.jpg)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: toofpikk on August 13, 2015, 12:05 PM
It varies massively model to model. On some of vampires turns, full 180 banks only have 4 or 5 supports.
Several of its corners feature only 3 supports around it (sizes in game are probably medium), a good example of this is the 270 helix which has only 7 supports for the full turn (and a half!)
(https://i.gyazo.com/519486f001e0ae7d204fb5c73f6b2c67.png)
Also, it would be extremely awesome if you could do a couple extra parts, like ladder details shown in the image you've posted above, but also the lift hill supports that arrow notoriously used (and maybe footers).

It was just a suggestion, but once again your doing a brilliant job!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 13, 2015, 12:38 PM
Sure enough eh. I probably could make 100's of pieces. lol As for extra parts, did you read my mind? :o That is exactly what I plan on doing. Footers are planned, ladders check, lift hill yep, and some other surprises. Hopefully this will be the most comprehensive coaster set ever devised. :D

Helix's are done! It wasn't to bad as half are just duplicated. Shown are the common outside supports but as always there are inside ones.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/CA/Shot0076_zpscnxkt6uy.png)

And here are all the pieces done thus far. Keep in mind many are grouped.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/CA/Shot0077_zpsdbrtjkkl.png)

One big change I plan on make is removing all the straight pieces on curve sections. Now that I think about it, it was not needed plus there will be more flexibility.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 13, 2015, 03:07 PM
Decided to make a footer, supports should finish tonight... For now, off to work...

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/Shot0078_zpsi2rlf5gt.png)

The fins, base plate, and nuts are all separate colors if you want.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: blk_mamba on August 15, 2015, 03:31 PM
Keep going, this is just what the doctor orders. I an Arrow mine train in my park and i'd love to keep a standing relationship with them and add one of their classic inverts!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on August 17, 2015, 09:02 PM
blk_mamba: Can't wait to see what you do! :D

No pics this time around.

I'm an idiot, to finish off all the supports of course I have to make each variation and like that was going to happen quickly. Currently working on the second style. Also, I initially thought I was going to add extender pieces for people who want really high supports however it will be easier if I just extend the current pieces downwards. As previously mentioned I'm also removing the end supports on curves since these are already covered by the straight supports. Footers have received on upgraded texture as well along with helix ones being done.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Wittloc on September 12, 2015, 06:03 PM
Good so far. Hope to see a download soon.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on September 13, 2015, 02:43 PM
Good so far. Hope to see a download soon.

Thanks, you'll probably see a beta release with all the supports done before a final release.

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could recreate this in RCT3?  ::)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtlo46wMP6HG80ixG29awO3DCqFplUOdKqCjFRkIPS_SFI9ivV)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Portem!ne on September 14, 2015, 03:02 PM
Amazing set! I admire your patience to create such a complete and polished collection of supports.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on September 21, 2015, 10:35 PM
Thanks for your comment. :)

Here is the latest and great download:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0b7kcKkANT_X0FIQm5hOWg1NTg/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on September 22, 2015, 08:41 AM
Sorry guys, wrong link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0b7kcKkANT_X0FIQm5hOWg1NTg/view?usp=sharing

Should be able to download instantly now.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Weber on September 22, 2015, 06:06 PM
Thanks a lot for this set!  It looks like you put quite a bit of hard work into it.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on September 22, 2015, 09:00 PM
Thanks, and I'm not even half way there. :P
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Rollermad on September 26, 2015, 08:47 AM
Do you plan on doing the swing stoppers for lifts and the bent pieces of track that are for stopping the swinging?
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on September 30, 2015, 10:56 PM
Do you plan on doing the swing stoppers for lifts and the bent pieces of track that are for stopping the swinging?

I responded to this, I thought? 8| (Maybe the post disappeared into the abyss.)

Yes there will be.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on October 11, 2015, 02:22 PM
Hey guys, need some votes, currently I only have one track connector. Arrow being Arrow designed another one as well. I've been toiling the idea of separating the connectors as another piece so you can choose between either one. So, here are your options:

1.) Keep the current connector. (Keeps set smaller but less options.)
2.) Separate connectors as separate scenery pieces. (Set is bigger, but more options.)

Below is the picture of the two connectors. On the right is the current on, and on the left is the new one. (Not final design, just giving you a general idea of what it looks like.)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/-2015-oct-11-001_zpsytemj0tg.jpg)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Coaster Designs on October 11, 2015, 11:33 PM
This is getting real nice! I would go for 1.. One connector is fine by me hahah
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: FlightToAtlantis on October 12, 2015, 10:05 AM

I choose:

2.) Separate connectors as separate scenery pieces. (Set is bigger, but more options.)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on October 14, 2015, 09:49 AM
Thanks for you votes guys. Still looking for more! Even if you are just skimming, your vote matters to me. Please keep on voting! I'm at the point I'm ready to import the supports...
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: toofpikk on October 14, 2015, 10:23 AM
Both!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Toborg123 on October 14, 2015, 01:55 PM
I vote both also!  ;D
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: OldTimer on October 14, 2015, 01:56 PM
I vote for both - having options is good  :up:
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on October 14, 2015, 11:31 PM
Thanks guys, keep the votes a coming. If I do go for both, I'm actually going to just make another round of supports. So the connector and the support will be together. (Saving both you and me time.)

In exciting news, I've imported most everything. Some issues but that will have to wait until after work, which reminds me, I should go to sleep. :P
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: OldTimer on October 16, 2015, 04:19 PM
Just a thought on the track connector.....and not sure if it would work......but....

There is currently no really good custom support track connector option for the B&M Inverted Track....if you did make your connectors as a separate CSO item would they align with the other inverted tracks?

Might make the set even more versatile.......but as I said.....I don't know if this could work?
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on October 16, 2015, 09:06 PM
Just a thought on the track connector.....and not sure if it would work......but....

There is currently no really good custom support track connector option for the B&M Inverted Track....if you did make your connectors as a separate CSO item would they align with the other inverted tracks?

Might make the set even more versatile.......but as I said.....I don't know if this could work?

Nah, there are better things for that.  ::)

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/-2015-oct-17-001_zpszpbnxswv.jpg)

If you must know, future set plans:

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: OldTimer on October 17, 2015, 06:41 AM
That connector looks top drawer excellent!

Shame I'm going to have to struggle with my current B&M Invert custom supporting until you release the set.....only to have to rip it all down again and do it again at some point in the future  ;D

Looking at your connector I'm sure it will be worth the double construction costs for my poor old park :P
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Mountainman on October 22, 2015, 09:20 AM
First of all: Thanks for making and sharing this set! It's pretty good so far. ;)

Wouldn't it be awesome if you could recreate this in RCT3?  ::)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtlo46wMP6HG80ixG29awO3DCqFplUOdKqCjFRkIPS_SFI9ivV)

I'm not sure, if this was meant to be ironically or not (or if it was only about the supports) , but the banking of the track is actually possible, if you know how it works. So I hope you consider to include the banked curve supports, too. ;)

(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah75/Mountainman87/Shot0446web_zps8clxxi82.jpg)
(If you already know about this, just ignore my comment :D)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on October 22, 2015, 03:13 PM
 :drool:

I was talking support wise but how did you do that?
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: Mountainman on October 23, 2015, 02:44 AM
It's a combination of the Suspended Coaster Track and the Zamperla Flyer Track. As you can see in the screenshot I posted, it works, but it comes with a small disadvantage: Track building isn't as simple as it's known of other tracks. You can start building as normal, but the moment you are using banked track sections you can't go back to unbanked sections (and therefore it seems you can't make a closed circuit). The trick is, you can use parts of your already existing track which are unbanked (e.g. the station or lift hill parts) and build from this position on backwards until you reach the first section of banked track of your previous "forward built" part of the ride. You can do this as often as you want to, just make sure you always have unbanked sections somewhere in your layout.

It's strange, I know, and I tried to solve this issue, but couldn't find a workaround yet. But I guess, someone who makes his own set of supports for this coaster type won't have a problem with a bit more complicated track building for getting this extra bit of realism. ;)

Here's the file you need (it goes in tracks/trackedrides of course), it contains FC's Arrow Suspended CTR car and the vanilla ones. Additionally, I included the BahnDaten.txt file, so you can change everything you want to. ;)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38471603/Arrow%20Suspended%20CTR.rar (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38471603/Arrow%20Suspended%20CTR.rar)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set
Post by: ALT2870 on March 03, 2016, 01:33 PM
Hey guys, so I finally got back into this set. I've almost completed all the footers so later tonight I will release another Alpha version for you guys to test. Everyone seems to want both connectors so I will do that, but it will be a later release.Thank you guys for your continued support. (Pun intended. :P) While no final release date or month, work will chug on!
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Update 3/3/2016
Post by: ALT2870 on March 04, 2016, 01:51 PM
Sorry for the lateness, but here we are:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0b7kcKkANT_MWQweFZjTVVvVFU/view?usp=sharing

As promised this includes the footers as well as all supports. I've started a readme as well though not complete. If you guys can comment, make suggestions, that would be great. As soon as I get enough feedback and the appropriate fixes, hopefully I can release it to depot. Thank you guys for all your help. :)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: ALT2870 on March 09, 2016, 01:02 PM
So do we still have interest in this set? No comments or anything so maybe everyone is happy where it is at now? Let me know guys. :)
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: Wil_I_am_not on March 09, 2016, 03:08 PM
No, I definitely love it! I'll probably use this in a coaster  :D
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: FlightToAtlantis on March 10, 2016, 02:23 AM
How about adding tapered supports, slanted supports, support cross beams, making the horizontal pieces at the top of your existing supports longer, or at the very least an updated support that's exactly the same width as your existing supports except it's a more slender (less width) support?
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: ALT2870 on March 10, 2016, 12:39 PM
How about adding tapered supports, slanted supports, support cross beams, making the horizontal pieces at the top of your existing supports longer, or at the very least an updated support that's exactly the same width as your existing supports except it's a more slender (less width) support?

I'm a little confused by what you mean. This set is prototypical of Arrow suspended coasters. If you have pictures of what you mean, it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: zeroG on March 10, 2016, 03:07 PM
Very useful set and great execution.

greetz
zeroG
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: Simtanic8 on March 10, 2016, 06:38 PM
Just went to try them out and it seems as though a mistake was made in the files as both the footers and supports folders contain the same files. No supports found but the footers look great.  :up:
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: ALT2870 on March 10, 2016, 09:38 PM
Just went to try them out and it seems as though a mistake was made in the files as both the footers and supports folders contain the same files. No supports found but the footers look great.  :up:

Good catch.  :-[

File has been re-uploaded with correct support folder. :)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0b7kcKkANT_MWQweFZjTVVvVFU/view?usp=sharing

Also, I will start work on the lift supports tomorrow.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download
Post by: FlightToAtlantis on March 12, 2016, 01:15 AM
..... This set is prototypical of Arrow suspended coasters.  .....

If it's only prototypical supports you want, then your set is just fine.
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download *Fixed Download 3/10
Post by: zeroG on March 13, 2016, 05:33 AM
I have installed the set and unfortunatly my game crashed after the Intro...
I´ve uninstalled the set and now it works again. Maybe there is still a bug in the files

greetz
zeroG

Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download *Fixed Download 3/10
Post by: ALT2870 on March 13, 2016, 08:42 AM
I have installed the set and unfortunatly my game crashed after the Intro...
I´ve uninstalled the set and now it works again. Maybe there is still a bug in the files

greetz
zeroG

Thanks for the heads up. :) I'll start to trouble shoot when I get home in about 9 hours since I actually have some time off. :D
Title: Re: ALT's Arrow Suspended Set: Alpha Version 1.0 Download *Fixed Download 3/10
Post by: ALT2870 on March 13, 2016, 11:00 PM
Alright, third times the charm. :P

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0b7kcKkANT_MFpFcFpRaEY4Wm8/view?usp=sharing

In other news, I have started work on the lift hill pieces. This is the start of the cross beam that connects to the track.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac283/ACER1238/RCT3/-2016-mar-14-001_zpsgfbjjdmu.jpg)