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Title: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on August 15, 2017, 08:15 PM
A little tease of what's on the drawing board;


(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader069/20170815213550_1_zpsa87t5mb3.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader069/20170815213550_1_zpsa87t5mb3.jpg.html)


(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader069/20170815213723_1_zpsmueglnjs.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader069/20170815213723_1_zpsmueglnjs.jpg.html)


Special shout out to Fisherman and JPAlmighT for some of their workshop materials. Hope to keep plugging away at this.


Any guesses?


Can't believe I'm back to school next week, and the kids arrive a week later. This is the first year we are starting before Labor Day.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 15, 2017, 08:27 PM
I hope more is coming soon as well.  :)

It's in the U.S., possibly a boardwalk, and takes place in the past (maybe?)...  I'm going for one of the old Coney Island parks?

My sister teaches elementary school and those kids showed up for class this past Monday, so you got a couple more weeks than some.  But I always thought it was dumb to start before Labor Day as well.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: citytrader on August 15, 2017, 08:48 PM
So close...  :)
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: citytrader on August 17, 2017, 11:57 AM
Blue sky, light breeze, and miles of Boardwalk;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader070/20170817144113_1_zpswnwlymks.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader070/20170817144113_1_zpswnwlymks.jpg.html)

The Palace of Fun has rides and attractions for all ages;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader070/20170817144036_1_zpsamkrmmby.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader070/20170817144036_1_zpsamkrmmby.jpg.html)

Again, thanks to Fisherman for his Waltzer! I just removed the spire on top, and it makes a perfect centerpiece.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 17, 2017, 01:45 PM
Since nobody else has guessed, I'm taking another stab.  Since there's a Wrigley's sign I'm going to guess Chicago's Navy Pier. 
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: citytrader on August 17, 2017, 02:52 PM
Go East, young man!
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: LuxDreaming on August 17, 2017, 03:22 PM
This is STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: Kinderly on August 17, 2017, 03:37 PM
Boardwalks always have a nice aesthetic to them, and from what has been shown so far, you seem to be capturing it well. I'll save my final judgement when there's more. :P

My guess is the Atlantic City Boardwalk. That and whatever is in Ocean City are the only two east coast boardwalks I can think of.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: citytrader on August 17, 2017, 06:57 PM
This city's boardwalk was always and still is famous for it's hundreds of Prams rolling up and down the boards!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader071/20170817215501_1_zps6n10vztn.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader071/20170817215501_1_zps6n10vztn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: mb1.0.2 on August 18, 2017, 07:41 AM
A quick google search later, and I think I'm in agreement with Kinderly: Atlantic City? Found a pic or two that looks a lot like this one. I love your historical parks. I especially enjoy your billboards, haha. Lookin' forward to more of this.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: Bullethead on August 18, 2017, 12:11 PM
Very nicely done boardwalk area.  That soothing syrup sounds nice about now, especially with some rum in it ;)
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: LuxDreaming on August 18, 2017, 12:14 PM
Holy Muther!!!!
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: shyguy on August 18, 2017, 04:47 PM
The closest I've been to Atlantic City is while watching the show, Boardwalk Empire a few years back.:P And that's the vibe I'm getting from this park.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: citytrader on August 18, 2017, 07:32 PM
This is STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!


Thank you! I see some of the other stuff posted here, and you cross your fingers that you measure up!


My guess is the Atlantic City Boardwalk. That and whatever is in Ocean City are the only two east coast boardwalks I can think of.


A quick google search later, and I think I'm in agreement with Kinderly: Atlantic City?


The closest I've been to Atlantic City is while watching the show, Boardwalk Empire a few years back. :P And that's the vibe I'm getting from this park.


I think JP guessed first, but yup, you guys are too quick! Atlantic city it is! Nice catch Shy, I am using a lot of reference photos from Boardwalk Empire, as well as historic archives.


Very nicely done boardwalk area.  That soothing syrup sounds nice about now, especially with some rum in it ;)
Ha! Mrs Winslows soothing syrup is actually a patent medicine that the American Medical Association labeled a baby killer! It contained morphine and ammonia! Unbelievable!

So I have no accurate maps to go by, so I'm just sort of creating a "photo mural" collage of Atlantic City, taking bits from various photographs and other references I can find. At this point, I am not planning to do the Steel Pier, but that could change as I move forward.

Here's a couple of hotel facades;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader072/20170818215751_1_zpsbtdva8co.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader072/20170818215751_1_zpsbtdva8co.jpg.html)

One of the dozens of small buildings that line the boardwalk selling food;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader072/20170818220027_1_zpsh6hwtlfg.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader072/20170818220027_1_zpsh6hwtlfg.jpg.html)

To the left is the Olde MIll. More on that later!
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 18, 2017, 07:47 PM
I only guessed it by narrowing down the continent with my 2 incorrect guesses!   :P

And I think it's smart going this route instead of something more familiar with an abundance of photographs... you get to put your own spin on it while following a loose outline, best of both worlds.

Speaking of which, I'm just loving everything so far.  The trams are very inspired, and all of those hotels and other buildings are really going to create that feeling of immersion.  (<--for some reason I don't think I spelled that right, you know what I mean...)
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope!
Post by: Bullethead on August 18, 2017, 10:58 PM
Ha! Mrs Winslows soothing syrup is actually a patent medicine that the American Medical Association labeled a baby killer! It contained morphine and ammonia! Unbelievable!


Like I said, it would be good with some rum :).  BTW, have you ever watched the "Adam Ruins Everything" episode on nutritional supplements?  Same old snake oil as before the FDA.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope! Atlantic City 1930!
Post by: citytrader on August 19, 2017, 06:46 PM
Thanks guys!

Not 100% finished, but here's the Wiltshire Hotel;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader074/06_10_010517_zps3eor4gqj.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader074/06_10_010517_zps3eor4gqj.jpg.html)

And my recreation:

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader073/20170819214027_1_zps1e4rkbkl.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader073/20170819214027_1_zps1e4rkbkl.jpg.html)

I thought I would tackle one of the easier hotels first. Some of those hotels were unbelievable!
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope! Atlantic City 1930!
Post by: Bullethead on August 20, 2017, 08:29 AM
Looks pretty good, although you have 1 too many floors I think (geez, this is a long story).  I have some questions, though (understand, I know NOTHING of Atlantic City).  Anyway, it's hard to tell from that old postcard, but it kinda looked to me like both the front porch and the stacked bay windows going up the front wall had angled corners.  But it looks like you built them square.  So before mentioning this, I googled the hotel to see if I could find other pics of it to make sure.  There aren't many, but they show the building changed somewhat in appearance over time.  And sadly, the hotel no longer exists so I couldn't use the street view :) .


Anyway, here's the situation as best I can tell.  It's based on the following info:


*  1907 Pic:  https://www.amazon.com/Wiltshire-Hotel-Atlantic-Luxury-Lodging/dp/B005DH19QO (https://www.amazon.com/Wiltshire-Hotel-Atlantic-Luxury-Lodging/dp/B005DH19QO)


*  1913 Pic:  http://www.auctions.glasstrio.com/stuff/o/o_nj_ac_wilt_124350.jpg (http://www.auctions.glasstrio.com/stuff/o/o_nj_ac_wilt_124350.jpg)


*  1920s Pic??:  https://picclick.com/Old-Postcard-Wiltshire-Hotel-Atlantic-City-NJ-Metropolitan-142461831350.html (https://picclick.com/Old-Postcard-Wiltshire-Hotel-Atlantic-City-NJ-Metropolitan-142461831350.html).  NOTE:  This was still Model T days, but there was now electricity and the lots to either side had been built up now, compared to the 1913 pic.


*  Your Pic seems to date from 1930-1945, see here:  https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:x920gb54j (https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:x920gb54j)


So, things appear to be as follows:


1.  Stacked Bay Windows
These do appear to have had angled corners at all times.


2.  Roof Changes
Originally, the building was 6 floors, all the same height from front to back of the building, under a pitched roof with dormer windows.  At some point after 1913, the outer walls were raised 1 floor level to enclose the attic and convert it into a 7th guest floor.  This was covered by a flat roof with parapet wall, the parapet not protruding as much as the eaves of the former flat roof.


3.  Floor Level Changes
At some point after 1913, the front end of the building was rebuilt with greater space between the floors.  It remained 7 stories but was taller to a depth of 3 rooms than the rest of the building, which retained its original height.  While this was going on, this rebuilt area was also made wider to match the extension of the lower 2 floors (see Porch Changes below).


4.  Porch Changes
Originally, the front porch had square corners even with the sides of the main building and had pairs of narrow columns with open railings.  In addition, it had a protruding central section with curved stairs to either side down to street level.  At some point between 1913 and the 1920s, the porch was extended on the left side to be wider than the building, and got an angled corner where this extension joined the original front porch.


At some later time, the porch was extensively rebuilt, probably when the front end of the building was rebuilt as described above.  At this time, the porch was extended on the right side to match the left, also gaining an angled corner.  At the same time, the protruding central area and stairs were removed and the paired columns replaced with singles.  The lower 2 floors were also extended to the right to match the new width of the porch, thus creating a step in the previously flush right wall.


After all these changes, the building assumed the appearance of your pic :)


===========================================


Damn, that was really getting away from the stuff I wanted to do this morning :D .  All I wanted to do was read the forum.  How did I get sucked down this rabbit hole?  It all started as just an attempt to see if the building's corners really were angled.  Now my head is full of a bunch of info about a building I never heard of before and which no longer exists.  WHY?!?!?!?   :scared:
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope! Atlantic City 1930!
Post by: TMH on August 20, 2017, 08:52 AM
Excited for this! I think I remember your RCT3 take on this.. If I'm thinking of the right park, I really enjoyed the mega hall with funhouse attractions and carnival rides.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope! Atlantic City 1930!
Post by: citytrader on August 24, 2017, 03:46 AM
Thank you guys!

Geez, bullethead, I honestly don't know what to say. I feel guilty you went to all that trouble! I guess I better not use the word recreation any more! BTW, not sure if you noticed, but the angled corner of the patio is on the right side, as that is where the street corner was going to be.

TMH, Thank you. I think you may be thinking of my Coney Island recreation (oops, there's that word again!)

So after tons of experimentation and a little soul searching (yes, I actually have one of those), I have decided that Atlantic City really didn't have the kind of vibe that I wanted to recr.... put my own spin on, so I have decided to take TMH's suggestion and move a about 150 miles north, and get to work on one of my favorite spots in amusement park history, Coney Island!

Having visited countless times, and seen both the ups and the downs of the area, as well as having created an enormous RCT2 version, I think this might prove to be a lot more fun. Bonus is there are no ginormous hotels to deal with!

Here's Surf Avenue between 12th and Henderson walk, which includes the Popper building, the El Dorado Auto Scooters (bump your a** off), and the Childs Restaurant;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader075/20170824003540_1_zpsxecchtoz.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader075/20170824003540_1_zpsxecchtoz.jpg.html)

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader075/20170824003645_1_zps852j5cei.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader075/20170824003645_1_zps852j5cei.jpg.html)

I noticed the hanging brick on the top floor of the Popper building after I took the pic, and that has been fixed.



I have 11 square city blocks to build out, and I have completed one half of one block! Let's see where this goes!


Thanks to fisherman and CTRSind for their workshop items. I will be utilizing a lot of other people's stuff to get this homage to Coney completed.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 24, 2017, 05:31 AM
I remember researching Coney a few years back for something in RCT3, so this location will be at least a little more familiar to me than Atlantic City.  I'm liking how you've adapted it so far, the Popper's building is gorgeous.  I will miss those little prams though, that was so clever.

I assume we'll be getting a Cyclone? 

Cheers to hoping you find all the time (and CPU resources) you need to make this look exactly how you want it.  I'll be waiting patiently, er, impatiently, for more :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: TMH on August 24, 2017, 04:05 PM
Having experience building the same thing in other games always helps. I know this will be great!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JCat on August 24, 2017, 05:50 PM
Hey CT! As a kid, I use to live a few train stops away and we'd hit there every weekend. Your boardwalk is looking amazing!  Giving me the nostalgic blues, but in a good way.  ;D  Can't wait for the Cyclone!  Are you going to add the Tornado and original wooden Thunderbolt?  I still remember Spook-A-Rama, Dragon's Cave and the Magic Carpet Funhouse.
Title: Re: Coming someday, I hope! Atlantic City 1930!
Post by: Bullethead on August 24, 2017, 08:52 PM
Geez, bullethead, I honestly don't know what to say. I feel guilty you went to all that trouble! I guess I better not use the word recreation any more! BTW, not sure if you noticed, but the angled corner of the patio is on the right side, as that is where the street corner was going to be.


Don't feel bad.  My job has me studying buildings a lot, both tactically in trying to anticipate what would happen if they catch fire and how I'd fight that, and strategically in trying to figure out how to keep the fires from happening and which year's version of the codes apply to them.  Renovations over time make both aspects more challenging and require further research.  So before I knew it, my work mindset kicked and I was analyzing the building as if it was in my jurisdiction :).

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So after tons of experimentation and a little soul searching (yes, I actually have one of those), I have decided that Atlantic City really didn't have the kind of vibe that I wanted to recr.... put my own spin on, so I have decided to take TMH's suggestion and move a about 150 miles north, and get to work on one of my favorite spots in amusement park history, Coney Island!


I like what you're doing so far.  But I hope this wasn't because of something I said ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Fisherman on August 25, 2017, 11:01 AM
This is delightful, Rich! I love everything so far.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on August 27, 2017, 10:25 AM
Thank you all!

Yes, I do plan on recreating the Cyclone, Tornado Bobs, and the Thunderbolt. (Heaven help me!)

Not much progress, but here's a few shots;

One of several dark rides spread around the area, the Ghost Castle on the Bowery;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader076/20170827131721_1_zpstuzqg1px.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader076/20170827131721_1_zpstuzqg1px.jpg.html)

Some small concessions on 12th Street;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader076/20170827131742_1_zpszpynvaix.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader076/20170827131742_1_zpszpynvaix.jpg.html)

Some more near the Wonder Wheel;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader076/20170827131534_1_zpsnwqzpu7z.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader076/20170827131534_1_zpsnwqzpu7z.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on August 28, 2017, 03:29 PM
Many people don't realize that Coney Island was A; not an island, and B; not an amusement park!

At one point in time, Coney was a series of islands, however, it was filled in naturally by tidal forces and man made canals until sometime in the 16 or 1700's it became a single peninsula at the southern end of Brooklyn. The original Dutch settlers named the area conyn island, probably due to the enormous colonies of wild rabbits in the area. When the English took over, the name was Anglicized to coney.

Despite having some of the most famous amusement parks in U.S. history, the legendary Dreamland, fabulous Luna Park, and most famously Steeplechase Park, Coney was really just a set of ordinary city streets and buildings converted to the entertainment industry. Vacant lots were rented to construct dozens of different rides and attractions, some of which changed on a yearly or even monthly basis. Storefronts were cannibalized into dark rides, theatres, side shows, burlesque halls, funhouses, and other amusements. Some of the rides lasted for decades (the Wonder Wheel, Spook-A-Rama), and some came and went quicker than a jack rabbit on a date.

A few examples;

Here's the Dragon's Cave dark ride. Notice the apartment windows directly behind the facade;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader077/dragoncave_zpslullrl8q.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader077/dragoncave_zpslullrl8q.jpg.html)

The Magic Carpet fun house was a delicatessen before being converted;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader077/magiccarpet_zpshjrsu2i1.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader077/magiccarpet_zpshjrsu2i1.jpg.html)

A series of garages would sub-let 10 by 10 spaces to any vendor willing to pay the fees. This still goes on today!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader078/all_coneycarniesrfp_2011_11_18_bk01_z_zps3dsrfxse.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader078/all_coneycarniesrfp_2011_11_18_bk01_z_zps3dsrfxse.jpg.html)

More Coney Island soon!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on August 28, 2017, 03:56 PM
Many people don't realize that Coney Island was A; not an island, and B; not an amusement park!


I try to learn something new every day.  Thanks for filling my quota before I had to work for it :)  I look forward to learning more about this famous not-a-park.  I had no idea.

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A series of garages would sub-let 10 by 10 spaces to any vendor willing to pay the fees. This still goes on today!


23% of guests think "This litter is disgusting".  I guess the other 77% are natives so are used to it :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on August 28, 2017, 08:47 PM
Glad you learned something new!

The litter is the norm out there. They have tried hundreds of revitalization projects, but the place is still basically a dump.

Now it's easier to understand why theme parks became so popular.

Anyway, here's a couple of iconic structures. The Childs restaurant on Surf Avenue prepared over 3000 meals a day! Today the building houses the Coney Island Museum and Historical Society;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader079/20170828232353_1_zpsq35tprig.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader079/20170828232353_1_zpsq35tprig.jpg.html)

The real thing;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader080/Coney_Island_USA_zpshba1kmqi.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader080/Coney_Island_USA_zpshba1kmqi.jpg.html)

The World of Wax Musee opened in 1926 and remained open until the mid 1980's. The structure itself stood on the Bowery, but was demolished several years ago. Here's the structure before getting the Wax overlay;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader079/20170828232215_1_zpsyrc64ekl.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader079/20170828232215_1_zpsyrc64ekl.jpg.html)

I have decided that I am going to lay out the famous or known buildings first, then go back and utilize filler buildings to flesh out the blocks. Don't worry, the roller coasters are coming!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: TMH on August 28, 2017, 10:35 PM
Thank you for the history lesson! I've always been fascinated by the organization of Coney Island within the city streets ever since seeing this picture years ago:

(http://i.imgur.com/8dwF9xm.png)

Excited for the dark ride.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on August 29, 2017, 09:55 AM
Ah, yes, the Tornado Bobs!

In the classic Woody Allen film "Annie Hall", Woody Allen grew up in one of the houses under the Bobs. Every few minutes his house would shake apart! Funny stuff! I have started on the coaster, and to be honest, I'm already a bit frustrated. Track is just not coming together the way it should.

I also had a favor/request. I'm using the Psycholo to substitute for the old Herschell Looper, but I would love to find something to cover over the brain. Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?



(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader081/maxresdefault_zpsyurv3sa0.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader081/maxresdefault_zpsyurv3sa0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 04, 2017, 06:28 AM
Coney Island at night;


Some parts of town are a little scary;


(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader083/20170904093822_1_zpslpcx83ul.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader083/20170904093822_1_zpslpcx83ul.jpg.html)


The Bowery;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader082/20170904092623_1_zpsn8b5qb2h.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader082/20170904092623_1_zpsn8b5qb2h.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on September 04, 2017, 07:02 AM
Good use of lighting, especially that last shot.  Nice constrast between the warm aura when you're standing on the street vs. the sterile white lights above.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on September 05, 2017, 05:32 AM
The lighting has a nice "Bogart movie" vibe to it ;)  I try for that sort of look myself sometimes.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 06, 2017, 04:34 PM
Thank you both! I was just sort of going for a typical city street look!

Coney Island has always been a popular destination for city dwellers!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader085/20170904223143_1_zpsuvye0dau.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader085/20170904223143_1_zpsuvye0dau.jpg.html)

Vehicles courtesy of Wings & Strings on the workshop. Incredibly detailed cars! Just beautiful!

One of the newest concessions on the Bowery was built by the JPAlmighT Amusement Company. With their kind permission, the new Tickler ride is a big hit and really fits right in! And at only a quarter, it's a huge hit with the peeps!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader084/20170904223247_1_zpsuecvqu9i.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader084/20170904223247_1_zpsuecvqu9i.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: shyguy on September 06, 2017, 04:39 PM
Those vintage cars add the perfect touch to this park. Everything looks great, as always.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on September 07, 2017, 10:01 AM
So flattering!  And you made it look good too, cleaned up the front and raised it up.  A great fit for this park.

But those cars are really amazing... may have to download them just to see how they did that
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: mineraljunction on September 08, 2017, 05:45 AM
Love how this project is coming along - really cool to see streets and cars and urban buildings surrounded by rides and attractions like this. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 09, 2017, 03:00 PM
Thank you guys! I absolutely agree, those vehicles really make the streets look like streets!

Coney Island gets racey!!!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader086/20170909174958_1_zpsaodlwc1r.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader086/20170909174958_1_zpsaodlwc1r.jpg.html)

"Step right up and see the world's most beautiful women in all their glory!"
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 11, 2017, 07:35 PM
The Spooks Dark Ride was located in a prominent spot right on the Bowery next to the Tornado Bobs.

Here is the actual ride;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader087/Spook%20Ride-Coney-1961_zps8tgarchl.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader087/Spook%20Ride-Coney-1961_zps8tgarchl.jpg.html)

I kind of like my recreation a little better;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader087/20170911222541_1_zpsyyve0bcg.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader087/20170911222541_1_zpsyyve0bcg.jpg.html)

At night;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader088/20170911223259_1_zpszeyc693b.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader088/20170911223259_1_zpszeyc693b.jpg.html)

Comments always welcome!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on September 12, 2017, 06:34 AM
I like your re-creation better as well.

And also, now I really want to fill my bathtub with wine  :P
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 13, 2017, 08:04 PM
I like your re-creation better as well.

And also, now I really want to fill my bathtub with wine  :P
Part of her act was actually taking a shower in wine (probably colored water) but I'm sure very sexy. Burlesque was pretty cool!  ::)

Spooks is complete and open for business!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader089/20170912220459_1_zpsakscmfi5.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader089/20170912220459_1_zpsakscmfi5.jpg.html)

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader089/20170912220612_1_zpsxatuukac.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader089/20170912220612_1_zpsxatuukac.jpg.html)

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader089/20170912220527_1_zpsi93ssx7p.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader089/20170912220527_1_zpsi93ssx7p.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 17, 2017, 08:01 PM
Back in the day, Fascination was one of the most popular games on the Boardwalk. There were no less than eight buildings in Coney Island that had Fascination arcades. Think of it as a cross between bingo and skee ball. Wildwood NJ has one of the only parlors still in business today.

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader090/20170917224009_1_zpsbfkxwjpy.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader090/20170917224009_1_zpsbfkxwjpy.jpg.html)

Beach towels, sunblock and shades all available for sale;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader090/20170917224901_1_zpsbxwxz2uv.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader090/20170917224901_1_zpsbxwxz2uv.jpg.html)

Hershell's Looper occupied a corner lot at 12th and the Bowery;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader090/20170917224401_1_zpsagwrzsgf.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader090/20170917224401_1_zpsagwrzsgf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Future Imagineer on September 20, 2017, 08:57 PM
Oh, hello! What's this little beauty? I love it already. It's got that distinctive citytrader charm and nostalgia to it. Can't wait to see some more! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 26, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oh, hello! What's this little beauty? I love it already. It's got that distinctive citytrader charm and nostalgia to it. Can't wait to see some more! :)
Thank you so much! It's comments like yours that make my day!

The aptly named pretzel was somewhere in Coney Island (not sure where) but it seemed like a perfect cheap little concession to recreate;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/pretzel_zpsdpps7qt3.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/pretzel_zpsdpps7qt3.jpg.html)

My recreation;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/20170926191257_1_zps6yf4bkca.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/20170926191257_1_zps6yf4bkca.jpg.html)

At night;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/20170926192254_1_zpswsypl5jg.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/20170926192254_1_zpswsypl5jg.jpg.html)

A small mirror castle and a German Beirgarten;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/20170926191619_1_zpsuay4osl2.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/20170926191619_1_zpsuay4osl2.jpg.html)

Coney Island could sure get crowded!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/20170926191819_1_zpsdpfwyoma.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/20170926191819_1_zpsdpfwyoma.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Plokoon111 on September 26, 2017, 05:00 PM
This absolutely kicks but citytrader! Loving the fascination, and yes Wildwood does have one and I want to try it badly since I'm in PA. Your darkrides are fascinating (get it? lol) that DLC came at the right time ID say with those new cars! Loving the vintage cars you have as well! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on September 30, 2017, 05:15 PM
This absolutely kicks but citytrader! Loving the fascination, and yes Wildwood does have one and I want to try it badly since I'm in PA. Your darkrides are fascinating (get it? lol) that DLC came at the right time ID say with those new cars! Loving the vintage cars you have as well! Keep it up!

Thanks! The cars really make the city look great! They are from Wings & Strings.

Just a few random shots from around Coney Island;

The Red Baron doesn't appear to be open today;
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader092/20170930133037_1_zpsrkpa7vwi.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader092/20170930133037_1_zpsrkpa7vwi.jpg.html)

One of several smaller roller coasters in the area, this one is modeled after Steve Franks (remember him?) Jazz Railway. I think it turned out pretty nicely!
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader092/20170930133234_1_zpsdbq02tdd.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader092/20170930133234_1_zpsdbq02tdd.jpg.html)

Washington Baths is one of a dozen or so bath houses that line the boardwalk;
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader092/20170930133113_1_zpsyiytpzux.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader092/20170930133113_1_zpsyiytpzux.jpg.html)

Every town needs a laundry and a market, right?
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader092/20170930200049_1_zpsqhmveqnj.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader092/20170930200049_1_zpsqhmveqnj.jpg.html)

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader092/20170930200120_1_zpsclosypxb.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader092/20170930200120_1_zpsclosypxb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Future Imagineer on September 30, 2017, 08:45 PM
I don't know why, but I really like that little alley between the Laundry and Market. And I agree, Jazz Railway turned out nicely!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: SPRidley on October 01, 2017, 04:25 AM
Those cars... hot damn, best cars ive ever seen made in Planet Coaster.
The idea of this park is amazingly great!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on October 01, 2017, 06:44 AM
Thank you so much guys! The cars really make the streets look like streets, don't they? I did not make them, the vehicles are courtesy of Wings & Strings on the workshop. Incredibly detailed cars! Just beautiful!

Glad you like the alley. I simply combined two fences, leaving a gap in the middle which is the gate;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader093/20171001070555_1_zpsfzph7ffz.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader093/20171001070555_1_zpsfzph7ffz.jpg.html)

There are a lot of alleys. Some are almost a little scary!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader093/20171001092950_1_zpskqhh48th.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader093/20171001092950_1_zpskqhh48th.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on October 01, 2017, 07:16 AM
Those last two shots felt very real.   Almost TOO real  :scared:

I really like the way you know just where to stop with the architectural theming... not overdoing it, within the what would've been realistic for buildings in this neighborhood in this time period.  All the needed details are there, but in all the right places. 
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on October 01, 2017, 06:22 PM
Those last two shots felt very real.   Almost TOO real  :scared:

I really like the way you know just where to stop with the architectural theming... not overdoing it, within the what would've been realistic for buildings in this neighborhood in this time period.  All the needed details are there, but in all the right places. 

Thank you so much! What I do is employ google earth a lot. I travel around at street level in older cities or the target area, and then try to copy some of the architecture I find. You can find all sorts of interesting buildings! It works pretty well, I think. The coney market, for instance, is sort of inspired by 1528 Mermaid Avenue in Coney Island.

About four square blocks are complete!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/citytrader094/20171001095805_1_zpsdrk22agk.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/citytrader094/20171001095805_1_zpsdrk22agk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Tomes on October 01, 2017, 06:50 PM
I really like this so far.  Old timey parks are my absolute favorite.  The wooden coaster looks awesome!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: YeOldCatLady on October 04, 2017, 06:04 PM
Wow! This is beautiful. It definitely captures the 50s Coney Island look (I've never been; only seen photos online :( ). I really like that you are able to keep the buildings on a smaller scale like it would be in real life.  :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: SPRidley on October 05, 2017, 06:11 AM
Mand that shot in the open dark alleway looks like people from the mafia are going to start a shoot out agaisnt policeman hahaha Super nice.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: shyguy on October 05, 2017, 07:17 PM
I love this project. Just one question, which you may or may not have stated already...Is this an accurate recreation of Coney Island, or re-imagining of it?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on October 06, 2017, 06:19 PM
I really like this so far.  Old timey parks are my absolute favorite.  The wooden coaster looks awesome!

Thanks Tomes!Glad you like the Jazz Railway. One of these days I'll be posting the Thunderbolt, the Tornado Bobs, and the Cyclone!

Wow! This is beautiful. It definitely captures the 50s Coney Island look (I've never been; only seen photos online :( ). I really like that you are able to keep the buildings on a smaller scale like it would be in real life.  :up:

Thank you. I really enjoy the challenge of "building small". Almost all of Coney Island is one and two stories tall. Or was back in the day. That's why the parachute drop and Dreamland Tower seemed so huge, because they really were in comparison to the buildings around them. Even today, there are a number of high rise co-ops around, but most of the area is one and two story buildings.

Mand that shot in the open dark alleway looks like people from the mafia are going to start a shoot out agaisnt policeman hahaha Super nice.

Thanks! But everyone knows the mafia is up at Brighton Beach, the next borough over!

I love this project. Just one question, which you may or may not have stated already...Is this an accurate recreation of Coney Island, or re-imagining of it?

Well, define accurate.

I have a number of old maps and photos of the area, and the internet of course is chock full of old photos and even movies of Coney. When I can accurately pinpoint a ride or attraction, I place it in the proper place. The iconic roller coasters, Nathans Hot Dogs, the Wonder Wheel, and the bath houses will all be correctly placed.

Some things are pretty boring or near impossible to recreate in PC, so I re-imagine those (see Spooks dark ride in post 40), while others, like the Pretzel ride, (post 45), I have several pics, but no known location, so I shoehorned it in where I thought it worked. I also had to make it a bit wider because of the width of the station of the new Pretzel ride.

Finally, most of these structures are now gone, so all I have are photos and film, almost all of which are in black and white, therefore color choice is usually totally mine.

The Zipper and the Whip on Jones Walk;

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/citytrader/20170926192137_1_zps4higd37w.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/citytrader/media/20170926192137_1_zps4higd37w.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: InfiniteChaos on October 07, 2017, 05:38 AM
Looks really good! I haven't said much on here, but I have been kind of silently watching the project, it just gets better and better with each passing day!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: mb1.0.2 on October 07, 2017, 07:15 AM
Lol, I can't believe you still put up with Photobucket. Might I suggest imgr? It's much nicer (and faster). As for the picture itself, that custom flat is looking nice. Is that your own design?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Hethetheth on October 07, 2017, 08:21 AM
Wow, how did I miss this?! This is incredible, Citytrader. It all looks very authentic.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on April 19, 2018, 06:13 PM
Looks really good! I haven't said much on here, but I have been kind of silently watching the project, it just gets better and better with each passing day!

Quite a few days now!

Lol, I can't believe you still put up with Photobucket. Might I suggest imgr? It's much nicer (and faster). As for the picture itself, that custom flat is looking nice. Is that your own design?

Thanks for the tip! I'm using imgr now! The Red Baron plane ride is by the-dork. Link;

 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866109974&searchtext=flight+school

Wow, how did I miss this?! This is incredible, Citytrader. It all looks very authentic.

Thank you!

Still plugging away at this monster!

Playing around with integrating billboard and three dimensional bits;

(https://i.imgur.com/mbXSltA.jpg)

How does it look?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Fisherman on April 19, 2018, 06:25 PM
Hey that's a cool effect!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on April 19, 2018, 08:15 PM
Fantastic use of billboards ;)

Also good to see 1) that I didn't miss much in my absence, and 2) that you're still working on this :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: ALT2870 on April 20, 2018, 06:05 PM
I love it! Excellent blending.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on April 21, 2018, 07:49 PM
Kind of like how this one turned out!

Emilio's Italian Bistro;

(https://i.imgur.com/mR1Bgaf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RVmywEM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9ebTy5y.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on April 21, 2018, 07:57 PM
The bistro did turn out well.

I'm not recognizing that awning on the snack shop though...  is there a shop logo on it somewhere hidden behind the billboard?  I just don't recognize the red and white stripes...
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on April 22, 2018, 03:57 AM
That is the new awning from the Studios pack. Only the front stripe is recolorable. It gives a little three dimension quality to the billboard storefront.

Don't look behind the facade!

(https://i.imgur.com/GC6FFCb.jpg)

The awnings stick out! I will also replace the scaffolding with something a little simpler.

Added some more detail;

(https://i.imgur.com/xjSqFod.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Fisherman on April 22, 2018, 05:10 AM
Looks wonderful, Rich!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! One of Four coasters down!
Post by: citytrader on April 24, 2018, 03:27 PM
Looks wonderful, Rich!

Thank you Derek!

The classic profile of a classic coaster;

(https://i.imgur.com/cO0GNYy.jpg)

Not a perfect bolt by bolt recreation, but it hits the height and width marks, and has a nice smooth ride start to finish!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! One of Four coasters down!
Post by: shyguy on April 24, 2018, 09:15 PM
Would that be the Cyclone? :whistling:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! One of Four coasters down!
Post by: Fisherman on April 25, 2018, 03:04 AM
It's Thunderbolt!  Are you going to make the house under the track?  :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on April 25, 2018, 05:56 PM
Would that be the Cyclone? :whistling:

Nope!

It's Thunderbolt!  Are you going to make the house under the track?  :D

And a lovely little kewpie doll to the winner!

And, yes, the Kensington Hotel is already built!

(https://i.imgur.com/ObEJtEp.jpg)

Sightline from the hotel back toward the Bowery;

(https://i.imgur.com/RJZEzfT.jpg)

Looking down from the 85 foot drop;

(https://i.imgur.com/P65tDle.jpg)

Found out something interesting in my research on the coaster. John Miller deliberately made the lift hill very high and prominent so it would be the tallest thing at Coney island!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: shyguy on April 25, 2018, 06:05 PM
Quote
Would that be the Cyclone? :whistling:

Nope!
Oh good. Because it didn't look anything like the Cyclone. :P

Seriously, the Cyclone's the only coaster I know from Coney Island.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: Fisherman on April 25, 2018, 06:11 PM
Looks fantastic, Rich!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on April 25, 2018, 06:32 PM
Seriously, the Cyclone's the only coaster I know from Coney Island.

In the 1950's, there were the big three, the Thunderbolt, the Tornado Bobs, and the Cyclone. The Flying Bobs from the 1939 New York World's Fair were also moved to Coney, but as we don't have Bobsleds yet, I'll just be looking at the others.

Here's the Thunderbolt in all it's glory;

(http://www.westland.net/coneyisland/articles/images/con-thunderbolt2.jpg)

And sadly, what she looked like at the end;

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/29/70/792970306e26481a8eb5b2130dc9ec80.jpg)

The coaster was featured in the movie "Annie Hall" as Woody Allen's character grew up in the hotel under the coaster.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on April 28, 2018, 05:18 AM
The facade of Thunderbolt is shaping up;

(https://i.imgur.com/WIp1V97.jpg)

Not in love with the sign, but it does the job! At night;

(https://i.imgur.com/Uv2loE0.jpg)

Lots more lights will be added!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: JPAlmighT on April 28, 2018, 05:22 AM
Don't sell yourself short; I think it's a fine sign  :whistling:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: Bullethead on April 28, 2018, 07:01 AM
Yup, very good sign!  Those things will never be quite as you want them to be due to the limited range of sizes for the key parts, but they still look quite good and you have to look close to spot the imperfections.  So don't sweat it ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on April 29, 2018, 07:08 PM
Thanks guys!

The edge of the bench;

(https://i.imgur.com/TA4qlvD.jpg)

Daytime;

(https://i.imgur.com/RdCY1d4.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on April 29, 2018, 07:35 PM
Oops! The electrician forgot to turn on the lights!

(https://i.imgur.com/ybuomLT.jpg)

Ahh! Much better!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: Bullethead on April 30, 2018, 12:23 PM
Ahh! Much better!

Quite so.  Looks great!  So, did a wharf rat gnaw the wiring?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on May 03, 2018, 07:39 PM
Quite so.  Looks great!  So, did a wharf rat gnaw the wiring?

Nope. Just thought I would lights!

Just a few filler buildings here and there on the bench;

Madison Hardware;

(https://i.imgur.com/yA6ZlMv.jpg)

Don't forget to pick up your salt water taffy;

(https://i.imgur.com/6S6V0Bd.jpg)

Katz' Amusements on Surf Avenue;

(https://i.imgur.com/1L3t2ct.jpg)

Note the rolling doors and Derek's skee ball games;

(https://i.imgur.com/0StmmV4.jpg)

The Whip that stood on the corner of the Bowery and 15th;

(https://downtownmagazinenyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-13-at-3.08.59-PM.png)

My version;

(https://i.imgur.com/X2HiquP.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: Fisherman on May 03, 2018, 07:48 PM
Oh, Rich! This looks fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: Bullethead on May 03, 2018, 08:35 PM
Yay!  Wooden coaster!  Looks very nice, as do the "filler" buildings :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: shyguy on May 03, 2018, 09:21 PM
I really like those last pics. You've done a great job at capturing the era.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: citytrader on May 06, 2018, 03:31 AM
Oh, Rich! This looks fantastic!!!
Yay!  Wooden coaster!  Looks very nice, as do the "filler" buildings :)
I really like those last pics. You've done a great job at capturing the era.

Thanks guys! Here's coaster number two;

Here's my attempt at the Tornado Bobs. I smoothed out those hairpin curves, and laid out some temporary scenery just to get a feel for where things will line up;

(https://i.imgur.com/mjft5T3.jpg)

I am about 60 feet short of the original, but the heights on all the turnarounds are accurate. It's not great, but not too bad either.

The Tunnel of Laffs and the Haunted House on the Bowery;

(https://i.imgur.com/XD3Vzwd.jpg)

Looks cool at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/REfiPFF.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! World Famous Thunderbolt!
Post by: Fisherman on May 06, 2018, 05:44 AM
Rich!  It all looks INCREDIBLE!!  You must show me your Haunted House today in the game!  It looks wonderful!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: Bullethead on May 06, 2018, 07:41 AM
That looks amazing!  A real page from history ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: citytrader on May 06, 2018, 08:03 AM
Thanks guys! I'm pretty proud of my Tunnel of Laffs. Not perfect, but looks pretty darn good.

(http://www.laffinthedark.com/articles/coney001/tunnelol-s.jpg)

Derek, the haunted house is just a facade. In fact, I stole it from my own Adventureland park. The interior is unfinished, and will likely remain that way. I'm already feeling a bit of lag, so I'm just focusing on the facades, for the most part. In fact, I deleted all the Wings and Strings cars (I had over 500 of them at an average of 400 pieces each!) I'll drop them back in when I'm taking final pictures and videos.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: robdcx on May 06, 2018, 12:33 PM
First, let me say I really love this project! I did a similar thing a year or so ago and was quite happy with how it turned out. Keep up the fantastic work!

I do have one question, though: are you going for an accurate recreation of the Tornado or just an approximation? I ask because the current version you have is quite different from the actual ride.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: citytrader on May 06, 2018, 12:57 PM
Am I attempting a bolt by bolt recreation? Absolutely not. I also did a RCT2 recreation about 15 years ago, and an RCT3 unfinished park about 7 or 8 years ago.

There were four big coasters in 1950, which is why I choses the year to model. The Thunderbolt by Allen with flat turns that ran over a hotel, the Bobsled, which I really can't do yet, the Cyclone, which I have not even begun, and the Tornado Bobs, by Church, which ran over a number of businesses built around its base.

(http://lakewoodparkcharlotte.com/classicpostcards/Tornado.JPG)

(https://i.imgur.com/rsOJEFz.jpg)

As I mentioned earlier, I am about 50 feet short, but the profile looks pretty accurate to me. The turnarounds are all at the right height.

Perhaps you were thinking of the Cyclone, the only one that is still standing?
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Post by: robdcx on May 06, 2018, 01:16 PM
Lol no, I know the Tornado quite well. I wasn't trying to be disagreeable, just to offer some constructive feedback. The street-side turn/swoop is fairly different from the original ride, and some of the camelbacks and pullouts could be more rounded. Again, I'm not trying to be nasty. If you're not going for absolute accuracy, that's fine. Overall, it looks great, and I think you've done a great job on everything else so far!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: citytrader on May 06, 2018, 02:08 PM
OK thanks. No offense taken. I'll take another look.

Did you create one for PC or RCT3?
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Post by: robdcx on May 06, 2018, 02:37 PM
Excellent! I really do like your project, and I love that someone is interested in recreating that specific period in CI history. The Tornado has always intrigued me, and what you've done so far looks great!

Incidentally, and you may already know this, I read an article years ago that talked about the dimensions of the ride. The plot of land it was built on was apparently not rectangular. If I remember correctly, one corner of it was roughly 54 feet wide and the other was only 27, so Fred Church was given a permit for the ride to overhang the narrow end by a foot or so. Like I said, you might already know that, and I'm going from memory. I could probably dig out the article and see if it has any other information about the ride if you're interested and don't already have it.

To answer your question, I recreated mine in PC. I wasn't going for an exact duplicate by any means, just the basic look and feel. It was meant to be the themed main street area of a park that I never got around to finishing. I'll share a shot of the unfinished area just so you can see what it looked like, but I won't clog up your thread otherwise.

Best of luck on your project!  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/5iSfO3D.jpg)
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Post by: citytrader on May 11, 2018, 02:21 PM
At the corner of the Bowery and 12th, there stood a Mengel's Looper and a little known ride, the Whirl Away, kind of a cross between a tilt-a-whirl and a tea cups. I substituted the Elixer. It fit well into the area. Behind both is the now correct location for one of the Virginia Reels, created by JPAlmighT.

Here's a shot of the real thing;

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/d4/62/0dd462fbb946635cd4e6af86ce6e8959.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UZnhwj3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8vt3w56.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/K2M7oMv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G41jSLW.jpg)

Still tweaking the lighting a bit. Hope you all like it!
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Post by: Fisherman on May 11, 2018, 03:55 PM
Looking good!  I love how you hid the brain on the Looper!  Ha ha!
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Post by: JPAlmighT on May 12, 2018, 03:02 AM
VERY nice job adapting those modern rides to a classic theme, especially the Elixir.  You've given me ideas.

And thanks for the shoutout, always an honor to get to be a part of someone else's incredible work.
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Post by: citytrader on May 12, 2018, 05:01 AM
Looking good!  I love how you hid the brain on the Looper!  Ha ha!

Thanks! It's just a few circles and an egg. I may add lights.

(https://i.imgur.com/2kI4Erb.jpg)

VERY nice job adapting those modern rides to a classic theme, especially the Elixir.  You've given me ideas.

Thanks. As you can see, the original had a really cheap backdrop. I tried to copy that.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/dd/a2/bcdda2562ecb8c0b32332407c93166a4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RxQjD3Y.jpg)

And thanks for the shoutout, always an honor to get to be a part of someone else's incredible work.

Thank you for giving me permission!

(https://i.imgur.com/5w88bez.jpg)

Of course, as the signs all say, my version is higher and faster!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/TbO8fuZ.jpg)

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Post by: citytrader on May 12, 2018, 11:50 AM
Finally found a nice use for those brownstone windows;

(https://i.imgur.com/T54P5g0.jpg)

A nice quiet corner in the hustle and bustle;

(https://i.imgur.com/17G85am.jpg)
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Post by: Bullethead on May 12, 2018, 07:32 PM
Finally found a nice use for those brownstone windows

Nice.  Makes me want to recreate the painting, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams".....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EuTtCNhxoaA/U6n9EEf5_tI/AAAAAAAAaX8/q0cR5SrNNFw/s1600/Boulevard+of+Broken+Dreams,+1984,+Gottfried+Heinwein.jpg
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Post by: citytrader on May 12, 2018, 07:54 PM
Always preferred the original Hopper painting;

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Nighthawks_by_Edward_Hopper_1942.jpg/300px-Nighthawks_by_Edward_Hopper_1942.jpg)

Dammit, you've done it again! Now I guess I have to recreate this!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: Bullethead on May 12, 2018, 08:25 PM
quote author=citytrader link=topic=19947.msg462673#msg462673 date=1526180067]Always preferred the original Hopper painting[/quote]

Didn't know that link wasn't the original.  I only see the painting in the various dives I visit, recognize it as an old friend, and go on sinking into my own problems without worrying where the painting came from.  Its message is pretty clear regardless :).

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Dammit, you've done it again! Now I guess I have to recreate this!

Better you than me :)
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Post by: citytrader on May 13, 2018, 06:25 AM
Yeah, the original is by Edward Hopper entitled Nighthawks. There are a million ripoffs. My personal favorite is the one with dogs!

A small Roll-O-Plane concession on the corner of the Bowery and Henderson Walk;

(https://i.imgur.com/62oYBC6.jpg)

Reiben's Arcade, with a carousel and numerous games;

(https://i.imgur.com/6uHam7y.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: citytrader on May 15, 2018, 07:28 PM
The Henderson Building on Stillwell housed the World of Wax Musee, that was operated by the same woman for over 50 years!

(https://i.imgur.com/TX2qXxP.jpg)

Pretty creepy looking at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/SY4XhBY.jpg)

The real thing;

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8525/8641077390_3e86ca5ce9_b.jpg)

The other attractions will be added later!
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Post by: JPAlmighT on May 16, 2018, 03:56 AM
Love the source material photos you're using... anxious to see the Hendersons building as that first level fills in, that last photo will be a fun one to re-create.

I agree about the lighting in the 2nd photo...  sets the scene perfectly   :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: Fisherman on May 16, 2018, 04:02 AM
I love how you really do your research.  Looking great, buddy!  Are you going to try your hotel idea for this one?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: ALT2870 on May 16, 2018, 09:13 AM
It is nice that you keep your time divided between the park and what surrounds it. I'm sure that helps with burnout as well. Also very well done on the ride skin, brings it back in age excellently.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: citytrader on May 16, 2018, 06:46 PM
Love the source material photos you're using... anxious to see the Hendersons building as that first level fills in, that last photo will be a fun one to re-create.

I agree about the lighting in the 2nd photo...  sets the scene perfectly   :up:

Thanks! I didn't recreate the the other shops, but hopefully, it gives off a similar vibe!

I love how you really do your research.  Looking great, buddy!  Are you going to try your hotel idea for this one?

Not the Hotel, I was thinking about creating a queue for another ride with wax displays. Little dioramas all along the queue. Have to see how the lag is before attempting any interiors!

It is nice that you keep your time divided between the park and what surrounds it. I'm sure that helps with burnout as well. Also very well done on the ride skin, brings it back in age excellently.

Thank you! The bench is really a mess, with huge gaps and holes everywhere. When I figure out exactly where a building or ride was located, I then drop it into it's correct spot. Even then, it's a crap shoot as to whether the real Coney Island looked anything like my Coney Island!

Here's the completed Stillwell Avenue side of the Henderson building;

(https://i.imgur.com/XfyH8fF.jpg)

And at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/UhqNra0.jpg)

Closeup;

(https://i.imgur.com/HN3HYNH.jpg)

Still working on the Surf Avenue end of the building.
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Post by: Bullethead on May 16, 2018, 08:01 PM
It looks so real :)
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Post by: citytrader on May 16, 2018, 08:13 PM
It looks so real :)

Thank you! I tried!

Here is the Henderson Building just before it met the wrecking ball;

(https://coneyislandplaygroundoftheworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/henderson1.jpg)

And my facade with a couple of Fisherman's game booths, slightly altered;

(https://i.imgur.com/aUfzbiJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pAnMHSb.jpg)








Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: Nemmie on May 17, 2018, 03:16 AM
That is simple and very beautiful. And it's the perfect home for Derek's games booths.
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Post by: wabigbear on May 17, 2018, 03:51 AM
The game booth tweaks turned out really well, glad you went with the pandas and rabid koalas rather than the rainbow poo's...much classier!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: Fisherman on May 17, 2018, 03:56 AM
Ha ha!  Looks wonderful, Rich!  I'm always impressed with your architecture skills (and jealous!).
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Post by: JPAlmighT on May 17, 2018, 04:02 AM
Yes to the Fisherman additions...  now the first level has that "busy-ness" from the photos, and the contrast between first level and what's above it. 

I once researched this park for an RCT3 project and what you've already shown exceeds what I learned then by light years.  I love this thread and this project.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! The Tornado Bobs rolls in!
Post by: citytrader on May 17, 2018, 08:16 PM
That is simple and very beautiful. And it's the perfect home for Derek's games booths.

Thanks! Glad you like it!

The game booth tweaks turned out really well, glad you went with the pandas and rabid koalas rather than the rainbow poo's...much classier!

Ha! I actually picked those two games because they were around in the 50's!

Ha ha!  Looks wonderful, Rich!  I'm always impressed with your architecture skills (and jealous!).

Thank you Derek! Not sure I agree, especially after drooling over most of your creations!

Yes to the Fisherman additions...  now the first level has that "busy-ness" from the photos, and the contrast between first level and what's above it. 

I once researched this park for an RCT3 project and what you've already shown exceeds what I learned then by light years.  I love this thread and this project.

Thank you so much! I had also done a RCT3 version, but I don't think I ever showed it off. Wagi and Derek might remember my RCT2 version, which showcased Steve Franks coaster creations. I loved that recreation, and am excited to finally be doing what I hope is a more accurate recreation now with PC.

Well, it's a start!

(https://i.imgur.com/ik8R4kW.jpg)
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Post by: ALT2870 on May 17, 2018, 09:00 PM
Argg, with your comparison photos makes me wish Planet Coaster had some more weathered pieces.That Henderson's building at night is lit perfectly. :)
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Post by: Bullethead on May 17, 2018, 09:20 PM
Well, it's a start!

Yay, the "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"  :D  Quite convincing!
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Post by: citytrader on May 18, 2018, 07:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/iNfHm2m.jpg)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Nighthawks" comes to Coney Island
Post by: Bullethead on May 18, 2018, 07:50 PM
Truly iconic. 

Glorious!  Glug-glug-glug-glorious!
One keg of beer for the four of us.
Glory be to God that there are no more of us
As the four of us can drink it all alone
(damn near)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Nighthawks" comes to Coney Island
Post by: Fisherman on May 18, 2018, 08:14 PM
That's awesome, Rich! What did you end up using for the coffee urns?  Primative shapes?  They look great.
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Post by: citytrader on May 20, 2018, 03:27 AM
Thank you guys! Glad you like it! It took quite a while to get it right. Yes, Derek, shapes, street signs, and Knight Rider rockets for the finials on top.

An examination of the painting shows a tiny piece of wall behind the cigar sign, suggesting that the diner is in fact a "prow", a part of a building that sticks out from the space above it. This is bourne out by the steel support beam in the tip of the restaurant supporting the roof. An interesting detail Hopper kept in the original, so I had to model that as well.

One of the more interesting things about Hopper's original is there is no entrance to the diner! Some existential hogwash about loneliness and the human condition, I'm sure, but in the "real fake world" I had to come up with something more practical.

What do you think?

(https://i.imgur.com/qcYlbeD.jpg)

Here's a reverse angle on the restaurant that show the part Hopper forgot to paint! I added a kitchen door and the restrooms behind the entrance. Simple clean lines. If you look at the painting closely, you can see the turquoise trim inside. I carried it around the rest of the room to break up the buff walls.

 (https://i.imgur.com/OlLnOfI.jpg)

The iconic Phillies Cigar ad;

(https://i.imgur.com/iphYV6S.jpg)

I fixed the shops in the background to look more like the originals. Just another glamour shot;

(https://i.imgur.com/KEEZmMU.jpg)
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Post by: Fisherman on May 20, 2018, 05:25 AM
Looks wonderful.  I love the liberties you've taken to make it more "real."

just needs some zombies...just for fun.   ;)  (I did a college project where I put zombies into the painting...it was a hoot.)

Found it!
(https://i.imgur.com/2oZNMvK.jpg)

EDIT:  I do have one suggestion.  Replace the two male customers with the seated archeologist so they'll have hats...maybe?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Nighthawks" comes to Coney Island
Post by: citytrader on May 20, 2018, 07:19 AM
Ha! Ha! Love it!

Better?

(https://i.imgur.com/0nz7qjs.jpg)

Not sure I love it, but it's an easy enough fix if I decide to switch it out...
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Nighthawks" comes to Coney Island
Post by: Fisherman on May 20, 2018, 09:25 AM
Hmmm...the hats are taller than I thought...looks like Abraham Lincoln.  ha ha.

I remember reading that Hopper swore he painted the painting based on an actual location.  But art historians have yet to find it!  Lots of establishments claim they are the spot, but no one can agree for sure.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Nighthawks" comes to Coney Island
Post by: citytrader on May 20, 2018, 10:27 AM
There's a gentleman who swears he nailed the spot. Greenwich and 11th. Even if he is wrong (I tend to think he might be correct), it's a great read;

http://www.popspotsnyc.com/nighthawks/

Meanwhile, elsewhere on Coney Island;

Someone made a nice old style Hurricane ride. I took the tower off of it and attached it to a Coriolis. It doesn't lookk fantastic, but I didn't want yet another fake ride.

(https://i.imgur.com/vaXSPrp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HBczdBR.jpg)

Traffic lights finally make their appearance;

(https://i.imgur.com/NPqjhGR.jpg)
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Post by: citytrader on May 21, 2018, 05:48 PM
Farber's Fascination Parlor (see post #43) now has an interior!

(https://i.imgur.com/h4y3Fya.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CjAg9TU.jpg)
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Post by: Bullethead on May 21, 2018, 06:13 PM
Well placed ;)
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Post by: Fisherman on May 21, 2018, 07:05 PM
Yay!!  It looks wonderful, Rich!!!   :up:   Sorry the scale is rather large...but it's the best I could do with the giant things we have to build with in the game.   :(
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Post by: citytrader on May 26, 2018, 10:40 AM
Thanks guys!

Stauch' Baths on Stillwell Ave. was one of the nicer bath houses in Coney Island. But by the 1970's it was falling apart. It fell to the wrecking ball sometime after that. The Warriors graffiti painted on the front was done for the film "The Warriors" that came out in the late 1970's.

(http://mattweberphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/Coney-StauchBaths-copy-2.jpg)

Here's my interpretation, in better days!

(https://i.imgur.com/pxG8YSb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0MHpHDC.jpg)

A little more detailing, but basically done.
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Post by: Bullethead on May 26, 2018, 05:08 PM
The building looks similar to the photos except on the narrow end.  To me, it looks like the shop fronts there should be flush with the walls above, same as on the long sides.
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Post by: citytrader on May 26, 2018, 07:35 PM
The building looks similar to the photos except on the narrow end.  To me, it looks like the shop fronts there should be flush with the walls above, same as on the long sides.

Good eye! I can't find it right now, but I have a couple of pics of the front of the building, and there was a small restaurant and couple games there in the recess. It was usually the case that boardwalk building would be subdivided like that. The building owners would make a killing on the rent for those 10 by 10 spaces.

So I guess not perfect, but close enough for me!  :D

I guess a buck is a bit much to pay for parking!

(https://i.imgur.com/1YsWZZj.jpg)

Stauch's Bath has a new neighbor! Looks perfect!

(https://i.imgur.com/TZqZBvM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tFVq4zZ.jpg)

Thank you Derek, for a wonderful ride and structure!
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Post by: Fisherman on May 26, 2018, 08:40 PM
Awww thanks for using it, Rich!  It looks wonderful!  And I'm jealous of your architecture skills on the baths building!  Amazing work!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 02, 2018, 04:34 PM
The Lowes Theatre stood at the corner of Surf and Stillwell;

(http://www.nycago.org/Organs/Bkln/img/LoewsConeyIslandTh1938Ext.jpg)

My interpretation, not quite complete, but here you go anyway!

(https://i.imgur.com/vZyIqs5.jpg)

Nedicks was the 1950's New York version of Starbucks. They were everywhere!

(https://i.imgur.com/mqUbAOT.jpg)

Jimmy Stewart's Harvey is playing tonight. We should get tickets!

(https://i.imgur.com/p5WRRCF.jpg)
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Post by: Bullethead on June 02, 2018, 09:55 PM
Definitely off to a good start on this one.  I thought "Harvey" was a pretty good movie, too ;)
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Post by: citytrader on June 03, 2018, 03:49 AM
I did a bit of research, and 1950 was a great year for movies! The Asphalt Jungle, Sunset Blvd, Cinderella, All About Eve, Father of the Bride, a number of others. All considered classics today.

Here's the completed building;

(https://i.imgur.com/klWsAKb.jpg)

Pretty impressive from street level. It's the tallest building on the bench, so far!

(https://i.imgur.com/DLzESEr.jpg)

You can see it from across the entire bench;

(https://i.imgur.com/8ricPGg.jpg)

The Jazz Railway on the Boardwalk needed a neighbor, and Derek's wonderful game booth came to the rescue!

(https://i.imgur.com/Szn5rVA.jpg)
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Post by: Fisherman on June 03, 2018, 04:26 AM
Aww.  That looks so nice.  The building is spectacular.  You have a real knack for making believable architecture in the game. I'm jealous.  :mad:up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on June 03, 2018, 07:07 AM
Another excellent and realistic building.  One of these days, I'm going to have to loot this park for them all ;).
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Post by: JPAlmighT on June 03, 2018, 09:20 AM
That is your best building yet, which is saying a lot. 

You're starting to have a small city on your hands here, can't wait to see the skyline on this place.   :up:
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Post by: citytrader on June 03, 2018, 04:28 PM
Aww.  That looks so nice.  The building is spectacular.  You have a real knack for making believable architecture in the game. I'm jealous.  :mad:up:

Thanks Derek! I just take the time to review the source building, and try and copy it as closely as possible. Most structures (American) are really pretty simple affairs. All the fancy work and geegaws and gimcracks look great in parks, but aren't really real life.

Another excellent and realistic building.  One of these days, I'm going to have to loot this park for them all ;).

Yeah, "one of these days" is going to be quite a bit down the road. I don't think I'm 25% done!

That is your best building yet, which is saying a lot. 

You're starting to have a small city on your hands here, can't wait to see the skyline on this place.   :up:

Well, there probably won't be much of one. Most of the structures are only two or three levels high, just like the real Coney Island.

Thank yo all for the wonderful words!

Finally got around to changing that sign!

(https://i.imgur.com/3eVDiAc.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: corkscrewloop on June 04, 2018, 11:58 AM
It looks very nice! A fantastic project and the atmosphere is so real! :)
Like to see more of that! A lot of greets, Corkscrewloop :)
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Post by: Fisherman on June 04, 2018, 01:53 PM
Oh the sign looks great!!!  Almost just like the real one!   :up:
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Post by: Bullethead on June 04, 2018, 04:57 PM
Great job of working around the limitations of fairy light sizes :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 04, 2018, 05:53 PM
Thanks guys!

This was my reference;

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/6b/6b/286b6b59fe2fb49d71568686773a3621.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: cody on June 04, 2018, 08:49 PM
I am loving how detailed this is looking! Awesome work on reviving a vintage take on a famous destination in theme park history!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 07, 2018, 04:16 PM
I am loving how detailed this is looking! Awesome work on reviving a vintage take on a famous destination in theme park history!

Thanks Cody!

Here are the Shore Apartments, with a sea shell shop and coffee spot on the ground floor, and the Blue Pelican jazz club upstairs;

(https://i.imgur.com/QLGlbKK.jpg)

Reiben's Amusements, with a kiddie carousel;

(https://i.imgur.com/rW4p6Eo.jpg)
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Post by: Nemmie on June 07, 2018, 05:10 PM
I just have to say that the 2nd shot of the theatre where you're looking up with the sandwich shop on the right just blew me away.
I'm just loving this whole project.
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Post by: Bullethead on June 07, 2018, 06:31 PM
I love the combo of a kiddie ride having a bar upstairs.  I guess it serves as a babysitter for the parents' night out :)
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Post by: wabigbear on June 08, 2018, 04:11 AM

Here are the Shore Apartments, with a sea shell shop...


I assume Sally works there?
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Post by: JPAlmighT on June 08, 2018, 04:17 AM
Love the street sign, and the interior window details on the Shore building.

You're really re-creating a very specific atmosphere, in a specific time period no less.  I feel like I'm there :)

Quote
I assume Sally works there?

I always felt like her name should've been Sheila.   :P
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Post by: citytrader on June 08, 2018, 05:14 AM
I assume Sally works there?

I always felt like her name should've been Sheila.   :P

Yes, Sally does, but she's always been a little silly. Her sea shell shop has stupendous sales on Saturdays and Sundays.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 10, 2018, 12:24 PM
Nathans started as a push cart on the Boardwalk in 1916. Today it is an American institution!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3f/e8/8d/3fe88d0c616b4e35a4c2ffbbea12d4d1.jpg)

I tried, but due to the constraints of the game, I kind of went my own direction with the restaurant.

Anyways, Here is my Coney Island Institution, Nathans Famous Hot Dogs!

Just had to put the hot dog on the roof!

(https://i.imgur.com/3wiiqEv.jpg)

The kitchen is gearing up for the crowds. Nathans claims they serve over 5000 hot dogs an hour during the summer.

(https://i.imgur.com/8Ghic6I.jpg)

Absolutely love this sign!

(https://i.imgur.com/WCTIdYd.jpg)

Looks pretty cool at night!

(https://i.imgur.com/ihg4DFV.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Fisherman on June 10, 2018, 12:38 PM
Oh, Rich I love it!  That painted brick sign is just perfect!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: shyguy on June 10, 2018, 02:48 PM
The new Nathan's looks great. And I agree with Fisherman, that painted brick sign looks perfect.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on June 10, 2018, 09:24 PM
I always felt like her name should've been Sheila.   :P

Yes, Sally does, but she's always been a little silly. Her sea shell shop has stupendous sales on Saturdays and Sundays.

Well, the real name of the woman for whom the tongue-twister was composed was Mary :).  Mary Anning, to be precise.  Ichthyosaurs and such.

Still, I've always been partial to girls named Sheila because, as Bobby Bare famously noted, that name rhymes with tequila and I can spot a tequila girl a mile off :D

https://youtu.be/0Lo8WrssxFA

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: JPAlmighT on June 11, 2018, 07:34 AM
Your structures keep getting better and better.  Although I must admit that real life photo you posted up top was pretty inspiring as well
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 11, 2018, 06:18 PM
Oh, Rich I love it!  That painted brick sign is just perfect!

Thanks! Yeah, I love it too!

The new Nathan's looks great. And I agree with Fisherman, that painted brick sign looks perfect.

Thank you. I wish we had a better selection of billboards.

Well, the real name of the woman for whom the tongue-twister was composed was Mary :).  Mary Anning, to be precise.  Ichthyosaurs and such.

Still, I've always been partial to girls named Sheila because, as Bobby Bare famously noted, that name rhymes with tequila and I can spot a tequila girl a mile off :D

You always manage to crack me up! Thanks!

Your structures keep getting better and better.  Although I must admit that real life photo you posted up top was pretty inspiring as well

Thanks! Nathans has taken over the entire square block, including indoor and outdoor seating.

Atlantis Bar and Grill was located right on the Boardwalk at Stillwell;

(https://www.coneyislandhistory.org/sites/default/files/styles/collection_main_image/public/documents/1106/images/x13518_ca_object_representations_media_1844_original.png,qitok=iTWF7RXx.pagespeed.ic.udiEfnOV1a.webp)

Here's mine. Just enough of an interior so it looks like something is going on there!

(https://i.imgur.com/s2O7lwj.jpg)

At night;

(https://i.imgur.com/QDMd38V.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/elobiDY.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Crisps on June 11, 2018, 08:09 PM
Wow this is beautiful! Never been to Coney before, but it looks like you are nailing it.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Fisherman on June 12, 2018, 05:51 PM
Really, nice, Rich!  The font is great and the interior looks inviting.  Is it a functional restaurant?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 12, 2018, 07:03 PM
Thanks guys!

As you can see, I changed the font to white. It stands out a bit more;

(https://i.imgur.com/8SbAEdC.jpg)

I got the font off of the workshop. It is made with the boxlights. Very clever, and looks great!

Derek, the interior is bare bones nothing. Just wanted there to be something to look at when peeps walked by. The bar is just repeated several times and the bar top is the sawed plank. A little joke is the cop having a drink;

(https://i.imgur.com/aUgEi7o.jpg)

The wrought iron set is from the workshop as well. Very simple and basic.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on June 13, 2018, 07:22 AM
As a fire code inspector, I prefer your Atlantis to the original.  2 exit doors :)

Also, in 1950, it was probably still OK to have a drink on duty.  We only took the beer coolers off our fire trucks 20 years ago or so, and IIRC in New Orleans firefighters are still allowed 2 beers per day.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 16, 2018, 07:45 AM
I have no information on a place called Moe's Five Star except it was a gaming hall and it sat next near the Atlantis bar and grill and a bumper car ride;

(https://i.imgur.com/BLu5j1k.jpg)

Derek's modified game booths look great, as always!

The boardwalk facade of the Washington Baths on Henderson Walk;

(https://i.imgur.com/q59TYY2.jpg)

A kid's walk-through fun house, the Kooky Kastle;

(https://i.imgur.com/PrB0ksR.jpg)

It actually houses a hats fantastic!

The boardwalk at night is really shaping up!

(https://i.imgur.com/doWCkpV.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on June 16, 2018, 09:35 AM
Your "Moe's" looks a lot better than the one in The Simpsons :D

Being a redneck, I'm unfamiliar with this whole NYC bath house thing.  Were they public baths like in ancient Rome, bordellos, swimming pools, or what?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 16, 2018, 02:47 PM
Back in the day, almost no one actually owned beach wear. They would rent it when they got out to the beach. Ever notice your grandfather's pictures, they are always in a suit? It's because that's almost all they owned. (Of course, film was expensive, and most people only took pictures on Sundays!)  ;)

So the bath houses served as lockers, dressing rooms, showers, and rental facilities for beach goers.

Many of them had outdoor and indoor salt water pools, rooftop gardens and seun decks with private cabanas, dining rooms, massage rooms, electric steam cabinets for the ladies, etc. Think of them almost like a cruise ship that doesn't go anywhere. After the war, when everyone started driving, they brought their own goods to the beach, and the bath houses just sort of faded away.

Here's the outdoor pool at Ravenhall bath house;

(http://artist.gailingis.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/picture-washington-baths2325.jpg)

I have waited on doing any of the outdoor bath houses until we see if we get a pool expansion.

Hmmm, it looks like they are assembling a new ride on that vacant lot on 12th street;

(https://i.imgur.com/hefhiye.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xgmwUCk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2nTkGki.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Bullethead on June 16, 2018, 05:35 PM
Back in the day, almost no one actually owned beach wear. They would rent it when they got out to the beach. Ever notice your grandfather's pictures, they are always in a suit? It's because that's almost all they owned. (Of course, film was expensive, and most people only took pictures on Sundays!)  ;)

Thanks for the info.  Such an alien world.....

One of my grandfathers was a dairy farmer, the other a refinery worker, so the both work work clothes except for when they were in the army in WW1.  And even into my childhood, going to the "beach" meant a sandbar in one of the local creeks, where we wore cutoffs.  Or went skinny dipping in our own ponds ;).
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: Fisherman on June 16, 2018, 06:03 PM
Looks great, Rich!!

That new ride doesn't look safe... Seems to be missing some parts.  Ha ha
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: shyguy on June 16, 2018, 10:24 PM
That ride looks familiar... :whistling:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950!
Post by: citytrader on June 17, 2018, 07:56 PM
That ride looks familiar... :whistling:

Well, I hope everyone recognized one of Derek's rides there. I just thought it might be cool to show one being constructed!

A new business on Surf Avenue;

(https://i.imgur.com/We84oQp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8leNrAw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gNm6CQg.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to Visit Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: citytrader on June 19, 2018, 10:17 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7154/6840770567_52b7618d94_b.jpg)

So I thought it might be fun to "open up" Coney Island a bit to other builders.

Therefore, I am starting the "I want to be a part of Coney Island" contest (even though it's not a contest)! I have built facades for something like 70 different structures, and am getting a little burned out.

So I am opening up a city block for development by the community! The block is 20 x 60 standard wall tiles, so there is plenty of room. I am asking anyone who might be interested to create just one structure or themed ride. The conditions of building are as follows;

1. The average building is 3-6 tiles wide and 8-10 deep. Keep those proportions in mind while building. No giant castles!
2. The time period is 1950, so no steel coasters, but a small kiddie woodie is fine. Modern rides can be rethemed.
3. It's a sand bar, so the terrain is flat. Any terraforming will have to be done with scenery.
4. I have all the DLC, so no worries there.
5. You will, of course, be given full credit for your contribution. You can even name it if you wish!

I thought this little contest might be fun and really shouldn't take up much time, as you are only creating a single structure.

Post below if you are interested in contributing a structure or ride to Coney Island! I am really looking forward to seeing some!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: wabigbear on June 19, 2018, 01:31 PM
I'll take a whack at a structure or two...
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: wowmanrct on June 19, 2018, 02:39 PM
I found a more updated version of the post card for you to use
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3766/6LZMiU.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: citytrader on June 21, 2018, 05:23 AM
Thank you.

1205 Surf Avenue;

(https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/streetview?sensor=false&size=640x400&location=1205%20SURF%20Ave,%20Brooklyn,%20NY%2011224&fov=120&pitch=15)

(https://i.imgur.com/YbuGcEL.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: Bullethead on June 21, 2018, 08:33 PM
Very realistic.  I really like those custom diner-style doors.  I'll have to steal that idea ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: citytrader on June 21, 2018, 10:02 PM
They are not custom. They are made with the new commercial walls.

Thompson's Scenic Railway was long gone by 1950, but not in my Coney Island;

(https://i.imgur.com/gQDalkY.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: corkscrewloop on June 22, 2018, 02:12 AM
Its such a pleasure to look at all those pics in that thread. It's so atmospheric and lively. The Atlantis is a fantastic beauty and the interior is fantastic looking! :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: citytrader on June 22, 2018, 12:56 PM
Just a little fill-in on Surf Avenue;

(https://brokelyn.com/app/uploads/2013/02/cha-chas-damage-sandy-440x352.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C18P3fZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "I want to be a part of Coney Island!" Contest?
Post by: citytrader on June 25, 2018, 07:25 AM
A huge shout-out to Wagi, who has come up with three buildings to go into Coney Island! Thank you, my friend!

He found a picture;

(http://i68.tinypic.com/9lao1g.jpg)

And he created this;

(https://i.imgur.com/ZevA4kF.jpg)

His structure was a facade, and I slid it into position on Surf Avenue and 12th street;

(https://i.imgur.com/5qlHdKe.jpg)

The structure did have an apartment entrance on the side. He also found a beautiful panorama photo that has helped me relocate several structures to their correct places in town.

Once again, thanks buddy! His other two contributions are even more beautiful!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: Fisherman on June 25, 2018, 12:14 PM
Awesome work, guys!!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: wabigbear on June 25, 2018, 12:37 PM
Thanks for allowing me to contribute in a small way on this project! 

Actually this has been great, not only does it allow me to learn some building skills in PC (limited as they may be...), but it's also a great excuse to take a step back for a couple days from my own mega-project!  Since we both love historical parks it's also been fun to learn a bit more about Coney Island's history in this time period...after the glory days of the early part of the century but before the decay of the 60's and 70's set in.

I know there's others here who also enjoy these sort of park projects, I'd encourage them to take a day or so and try their hand at something to contribute as well!   :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: citytrader on June 25, 2018, 08:22 PM
Thanks Wagi!

Here's just a small boardwalk arcade. You also have a tiny sneak peak of one of Wagi's buildings;

(https://i.imgur.com/yu0uYKy.jpg)

At night;

(https://i.imgur.com/K5S3IY0.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: Fisherman on June 25, 2018, 08:59 PM
Awesome!  I love the multi-colored lights on the exterior.  Nice touch.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: citytrader on June 26, 2018, 04:09 AM
Thanks Derek!

Gargiulo's Restaurant is a Coney Island icon. It first opened in 1907 on 15th street. It still stands today.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2agw4mb.jpg)

Wagi created a beautiful reproduction of the facade, and in reality, the restaurant would have been off my map, so I swung it around and placed it on the corner of Surf Avenue and 15th. The small enclosed patio was my idea, and the facade houses a chief beef and a restroom.

(https://i.imgur.com/3UlpxQQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GQGx9yp.jpg)

Once again, a terrific addition to the park! Thank you Wagi!!!

Anyone else care to contribute a structure or facade?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: Fisherman on June 26, 2018, 06:54 AM
That looks WONDERFUL, Wagi!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: Bullethead on June 26, 2018, 07:54 AM
That's some amazing work by both Citytrader and Wagi!

I really need to learn how to make awesome billboards like that :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: citytrader on June 27, 2018, 10:15 AM
Yet another icon of the landscape of Coney Island is Child's restaurant. They could serve over 2000 lunches an hour back in the day. Child's had two locations at Coney, one of which was on the boardwalk. After the restaurant closed, the building became a factory, producing "Peeps" back in the 1970s and 80s!

The building fell into disrepair, and was scheduled for demolition, but a group of investors worked to reclassify the structure as a historic building. It was saved from the wrecking ball, and recently reopened as sort of a restaurant food court, with five restaurants and communal seating.

Back in the day;

(http://www.oldstructures.com/wp-content/images/2018/05/Childs-Boardwalk-Restaurant.jpg)

Time was not very kind to the structure;

(https://therealdeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/childs-building-coney-island.jpg)

A close up of some of the gorgeous terra cotta work on the structure;

(http://bostonvalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/seaside_blog03.jpg)

Once again, Wagi worked his magic, and came up with a beautiful structure that captures the look and feel of the original;

(https://i.imgur.com/YigjJVN.jpg)

The upstairs outdoor terrace;

(https://i.imgur.com/Dkg8b49.jpg)

The place looks magical at night!

(https://i.imgur.com/T7p2v6F.jpg)

The 15th street front entrance;

(https://i.imgur.com/8n4Mb1N.jpg)

One more beauty from Wagi!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: Fisherman on June 27, 2018, 10:28 AM
OMG that's gorgeous!!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: wowmanrct on June 27, 2018, 10:45 AM
your re-imagining of all these old buildings is awesome
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: JPAlmighT on June 27, 2018, 11:06 AM
I think it's safe to say that Wagi has got this game pretty much figured out :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: wabigbear on June 27, 2018, 11:26 AM
Thanks guys, but I'm still in the learning process when it comes to this game! 

I also had a lot of help, that's Masked's Deco font, micahmoe's Hollywood font, and I used part of NikoBull's Pergola Fleuries from the Workshop, and then citytrader cleaned the structure up and tweaked it to finish it off, but even I'll agree, it sure look's gorgeous there - easy when it was such a beautiful building in real life to base it on!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: LuxDreaming on June 27, 2018, 02:37 PM
One. Word............STUNNING!!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: citytrader on June 28, 2018, 04:07 AM
Thank you all!

Just a couple more filler building, a bar and an ice cream stand;

(https://i.imgur.com/dfPiGzE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZRJl58c.jpg)

After a bit of squeezing and shoving, I got Derek's Whip ride to fit into the recreated Whip structure I had built next to the Thunderbolt.

Here's the real thing;

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1331/1448796350_c5f881e56e.jpg)

Mine;

(https://i.imgur.com/XGKJMLa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TgbWKLI.jpg)

At night;

(https://i.imgur.com/56cljTd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/g3UWOB7.jpg)

Thank you again, Derek, for a wonderful mock up!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Wagi contributes!
Post by: Bullethead on June 28, 2018, 06:35 AM
This is fantastic work!  The Childs and whipping the Whip into shape,  Well-done all hands ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: citytrader on June 28, 2018, 08:27 AM
Posted the Thunderbolt on the Workshop as per several requests. The hotel is included!

(https://i.imgur.com/gMrnpCm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0F5zhfn.jpg)

Link;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1425247590

Ride her if you dare!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: Bullethead on June 28, 2018, 04:20 PM
Ride her if you dare!

Oh, I plan on it.  I suck at making wooden coasters so having a good example will help ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: wabigbear on June 28, 2018, 04:36 PM
Yay!  I was hoping you'd share that!  Thank you sir!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: Fisherman on June 29, 2018, 05:32 AM
Yay!  Everything looks wonderful!  The peeps on the Whip look so excited to be riding it!    :whistling:  :sleeping:  ;)  Don't know why the devs made them look so bored.  Ha ha!  Anyhoo...I love what you did with the building to make it all fit.  Looks just like the real one!

P.S.  Wouldn't it be hilarious if we got a Whip in the new DLC?!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: citytrader on June 29, 2018, 07:47 AM
Wouldn't it be hilarious if we got a Whip in the new DLC?!

Not very. It took me over an hour to slowly squeeze yours into my structure!  ;D

In hindsight, it would have been easier to just rebuild the whole thing!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: citytrader on June 29, 2018, 05:26 PM
Fun in the Dark facade;

(https://sep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-133252830141239/coney-island-fun-in-the-dark-20.jpg)

My facade;

(https://i.imgur.com/MB0VVa2.jpg)

Many businesses on Coney Island just couldn't cut it;

(https://i.imgur.com/heDpMxP.jpg)

Nearly every building had a rooftop billboard, most of which advertised booze! Moe's is no exception!

(https://i.imgur.com/rKTt6jz.jpg)

A quaint little florist in the middle of the busy Bowery;

(https://i.imgur.com/L12jm5Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: Fisherman on June 30, 2018, 11:54 AM
Wonderful work, Rich!  I LOVE The flowers in the window displays in the last shot!  Nice little detail.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: wowmanrct on June 30, 2018, 02:36 PM
these recreates are really good. I never realized all this stuff was on Coney ISland
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: citytrader on July 01, 2018, 09:32 PM
these recreates are really good. I never realized all this stuff was on Coney ISland
Oh yes, Coney Island was quite the place!

So in my research, I have found a number of great or interesting or bizarre pictures. Take for instance this pic of the bobsled ride;

(https://i.imgur.com/yULtv25.jpg)

Now look carefully at the top right of the pic. It appears to be some sort of water or tracked ride literally going through a tar paper tunnel with a fancy facade. I have been totally intrigued by this ride, and was determined to recreate it for my park. The issue is I could never figure out what the attraction was. Since it is so obviously a temporary type structure, my guess is there is nothing about it ever written down!

So here is the rear of the attraction;

 (https://i.imgur.com/OWfM7iW.jpg)

I let myself go a little bit with this one, but I think I came up with a cute little ride;

(https://i.imgur.com/EPQf3W3.jpg)

"The Spanish Main". What do you think?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: Fisherman on July 01, 2018, 09:40 PM
I LOVE it!  My only question...is how did that old truck drive into the middle?   :confused:   :shifty:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! Thunderbolt posted on the Workshop
Post by: citytrader on July 02, 2018, 07:01 AM
I LOVE it!  My only question...is how did that old truck drive into the middle?   :confused:   :shifty:
HA HA! Never thought of that! I guess I can add a ramp somewhere!

The ride operator readies her station for the crowds;

(https://i.imgur.com/McbPTvK.jpg)

The soldiers guard one of the treasure chests;

(https://i.imgur.com/MkYx6bS.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: Bullethead on July 02, 2018, 08:00 AM
That's a cool creation with justifiable artistic license.  It looks great!

I really do wonder what was in the real tunnel, though.  That was before log rides were invented.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 02, 2018, 08:17 AM
My guess would be an old mill type thing, also known as a tunnel of love. They had these small boats that would be pulled through the water by a series of underwater chains. Kennywood and Rye playland still have operating old mill rides, Kennywood is decorated for the cartoon cat Garfield, and Rye has a bunch of trolls or dwarfs or something. They are both listed on the register of historic places, and can't be torn down. The water is about six inches deep, and the tunnels were usually just black felt roof paper or tar smeared on the walls. Gave couples a little bit of kissy face time back in the day.

The huge Dreamland fire at Coney Island started in the Hellgate tunnel of Love from a bucket of hot tar, and destroyed half the amusement park.

The pumping station is cleverly disguised as part of the fort;

(https://i.imgur.com/y2JW168.jpg)

The dock is loaded with supplies for your journey. But is that deckhand really who we think he is?

(https://i.imgur.com/vIp4QxN.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: Bullethead on July 02, 2018, 09:09 AM
My guess would be an old mill type thing, also known as a tunnel of love. They had these small boats that would be pulled through the water by a series of underwater chains. Kennywood and Rye playland still have operating old mill rides, Kennywood is decorated for the cartoon cat Garfield, and Rye has a bunch of trolls or dwarfs or something. They are both listed on the register of historic places, and can't be torn down. The water is about six inches deep, and the tunnels were usually just black felt roof paper or tar smeared on the walls. Gave couples a little bit of kissy face time back in the day.

Ah, that makes sense.  It does look like a fire trap although I guess it was pretty easy to make your own exit through the tarpaper walls :)  Anyway, if that's what it was, the log ride is a good choice.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 02, 2018, 10:48 AM
Ah, that makes sense.  It does look like a fire trap although I guess it was pretty easy to make your own exit through the tarpaper walls :)  Anyway, if that's what it was, the log ride is a good choice.
Perhaps we'll get boat rides soon! Would love those swan boats! And chairlifts (for Derek!)

Do we really need a cutlass to load freight?

(https://i.imgur.com/71zuCMd.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: Bullethead on July 02, 2018, 06:44 PM
Do we really need a cutlass to load freight?

Perhaps your stevedores are human traffickers / slavers? 
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 03, 2018, 01:15 PM
I guess someone didn't pay attention during the training video!

(https://i.imgur.com/jEAOIKX.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: wabigbear on July 03, 2018, 02:00 PM
LOL!  Too funny!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 03, 2018, 07:53 PM
LOL!  Too funny!

Thanks!

Our intrepid pirates to be learn how easy it is to beach a boat!

(https://i.imgur.com/ciCWUY7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kz9KcZp.jpg)

What's that ominous looking fort around the corner?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 03, 2018, 08:15 PM
Love what you came up with based only on what could be seen in that photo.   And I agree with your logic, if this is how that built tunnels of love, that would explain why there aren't many around today.

Totally agree about the swan boats.  THAT was a definite missed opportunity in this new pack.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 05, 2018, 07:53 AM
Thanks JP! Swans would have been perfect in this vintage pack. Perhaps we'll see Vintage Pack 2 at some point. I'd also love a Spooky 2!!!

The pirates may get us! Look out!

(https://i.imgur.com/MInLuWd.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 08, 2018, 06:56 PM
As was the style, the rest of the ride is just a dark tunnel. Gave couples a little bit of time to canoodle!

(https://i.imgur.com/979zYJR.jpg)

Behind the facade, some cast members loiter among discarded ride pieces, including a broken shark!

(https://i.imgur.com/A6Cd6lm.jpg)

The facade at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/hfcoBgQ.jpg)

A number of people have asked for an overview of the entire bench. Here you go! The Thunderbolt is in the foreground, the Tornado Bobs in the center, and the Cyclone will be on the last block at the top of the picture. To date, there are 74 separate facades, 14 street intersections, a scale quarter mile of boardwalk, and 19 rides;

(https://i.imgur.com/18pYfAb.jpg)

Hope you like it!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: Fisherman on July 08, 2018, 07:07 PM
Wow!  You've done so much!

The shark is a nice touch.   ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: Bullethead on July 10, 2018, 10:26 AM
That's quite a collection there!  This project is amazingly ambitious the results are so cool ;)  Thanks for the overview.  I've been wondering what it all looked like.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: citytrader on July 11, 2018, 12:39 PM
Thanks for the nice comments, guys!

Looks like the terracotta craftsmen have been working overtime on the Child's restaurant facade;

(https://i.imgur.com/O3EBkOu.jpg)

They worked so fast, they bent over that boardwalk street light!

Wagi's at it again! Here is a really cute little shop for Surf Avenue;

(https://i.imgur.com/rdwQx4O.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/o80jml2.jpg)

Ruby's Clam House was another Coney Island staple, and there were at least three locations in just a dozen or so square blocks!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "The Spanish Main"
Post by: Bullethead on July 12, 2018, 03:33 AM
The new friezes on Child's are fantastic.  That building really looks awesome now.   I hadn't noticed before the front wall was all prison bars, and the decor does a good job of making the place NOT look like a prison ;).

And WTG Wagi on the Ruby's restaurant!  Very real!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 15, 2018, 11:57 AM
At the end of the Bowery, on Kensington Walk, we would find ourselves in front of...

(https://i.imgur.com/37evg4K.jpg)

George Tilyou's Steeplechase Park!

(https://i.imgur.com/wySS1nC.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Fisherman on July 15, 2018, 07:05 PM
I love it!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: dinoco on July 16, 2018, 03:55 AM
Yep, not that much more to say. Also, that pic with the bended lamp looks so good! Almost mistook it for a photograph for a second:)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Nemmie on July 16, 2018, 01:45 PM
That is gorgeous. I'd love a closer look at that entrance way.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 16, 2018, 03:06 PM
I love it!

Thanks Derek!

Yep, not that much more to say. Also, that pic with the bended lamp looks so good! Almost mistook it for a photograph for a second:)

Thank you very much. Still tryng to figure out that bent street light. Must be gremlins in the game!


That is gorgeous. I'd love a closer look at that entrance way.

Thanks Nemmie! Here you go;

(https://i.imgur.com/LMG3ab7.jpg)

I have added a bit here and there, but was lazy about taking another picture!  ;D

A new dark ride opens on the boardwalk;

(https://i.imgur.com/uam9YQK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HUujFDn.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Bullethead on July 17, 2018, 11:21 AM
The details in that entrance facade really look good.  You're really giving great lessons on how to use some of the new parts :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 17, 2018, 11:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/7V9U3fy.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 18, 2018, 02:33 AM
The details in that entrance facade really look good.  You're really giving great lessons on how to use some of the new parts :)

Thank you! I think that Steeplechase turned out OK as well, but then I saw Fisherman's new Flying Turns Station, and I am truly humbled!  :)

A couple more of the new Boardwalk attraction;

(https://i.imgur.com/k1fqkds.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ewWHmkc.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 18, 2018, 07:38 AM
Truly charming.

I remembering researching steeplechase park for RCT3 and trying to build the actual steeplechase attraction.  That would be a neat ride to have back in this game, but I imagine this is one of the few parks that would truly benefit.  Most people never used the one in RCT3 from what I recall.  Do you have any plans to put some sort of ride in place of it?   Is that what this dark ride is?   :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 18, 2018, 10:36 AM
Truly charming.

I remembering researching steeplechase park for RCT3 and trying to build the actual steeplechase attraction.  That would be a neat ride to have back in this game, but I imagine this is one of the few parks that would truly benefit.  Most people never used the one in RCT3 from what I recall.  Do you have any plans to put some sort of ride in place of it?   Is that what this dark ride is?   :up:
Well, yes and no. I am recreating Coney Island from 10th to 16th streets, and the beach to Surf Avenue. It's a huge piece of property, and as I've mentioned, will probably have over 150 structures, five major roller coasters, and a couple dozen flats. If my computer can handle it. To be honest, it starts crawling if I let in peeps. Steeplechase covered the next several blocks, from 16th to 20th, I believe. If I were to continue, that would almost double the size of the park. So I was going to satisfy myself with just the entrance.

As for the Steeplechase ride itself, it was massive, and circled around a structure called the Pavillion of Fun;

(https://www.westland.net/coneyisland/articles/images/stp-steeplechase3.jpg)

(http://www.pdxhistory.com/assets/images/stphorses.jpg)

What I have been showcasing is a gentle kids dark ride called "Once Upon a Time";

(https://i.imgur.com/2efRK5p.jpg)

Found a cute fairy tale mural online, and it looks fantastic!

(https://i.imgur.com/M0yMyIw.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: wowmanrct on July 18, 2018, 11:04 AM
I would love to have been able to ride this ride
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 19, 2018, 02:57 AM
I would love to have been able to ride this ride
Thank you so much!

It does seem pretty popular with the peeps;

(https://i.imgur.com/0EYY391.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: JCat on July 20, 2018, 12:49 PM
I've been MIA - so amazing to see this still going. You're capturing a lot of CI's key highlights so amazingly! Even Steeplechase!  That last shot - with "Once upon a time" - I frigging went on that as a kid. I totally forgot about that ride until I saw that pic. I thought it was called "Fairyland" or something like that?  Looking forward to more of this (quite the mega project)!  :o
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 20, 2018, 05:39 PM
I've been MIA - so amazing to see this still going. You're capturing a lot of CI's key highlights so amazingly! Even Steeplechase!  That last shot - with "Once upon a time" - I frigging went on that as a kid. I totally forgot about that ride until I saw that pic. I thought it was called "Fairyland" or something like that?  Looking forward to more of this (quite the mega project)!  :o
Nice to see you stop by! It's been a long time!

It may have been Fairyland. I honestly can't remember either, and I think it was only around for a short period.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Bullethead on July 20, 2018, 08:31 PM
That's such a charming kiddie ride ;).  And WOW, I never heard of this Steeplechase ride but it looks awesome!  Once again, I feel cheated by history, never having gotten to see such things.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 21, 2018, 02:14 AM
Yes, the Steeplechase was quite a thing! Originally, it had eight tracks, but in the 50's they reduced it to four. This newsreel is one of the only times I have seen the ride actually moving. Jump to about 1:01 and it's pretty cool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKEIqLZ5aDM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKEIqLZ5aDM)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Fisherman on July 21, 2018, 02:31 AM
Omg!  I forgot about the Witching Waves!  That thing looked crazy
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 21, 2018, 04:07 AM
Wow, I'd never seen a steeplechase ride in action either.   In fact, I think this is the only one I've ever heard of.   Really surprising and impressive that RCT3 chose to include it, I'm thinking it was even in the base game.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Fisherman on July 21, 2018, 04:19 AM
Blackpool Pleasure Beach still has one (although it's a modern one) ... And Knotts Berry Farm used to have one with little wooden cars instead of horses called Soap Box Derby Racers
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Bullethead on July 21, 2018, 07:58 AM
Ah, geez, Rich, that old video brought a tear to my eye.  Life was so much more enjoyable when nobody minded a few lumps and bumps, maybe a broken bone or 2, all in the name of good, clean fun.  Back when everybody could obviously see that they might get hurt doing these attractions but they accepted the risk.  It's a shame the never-to-be-sufficiently-damned plaintiff lawyers ruined such things for everybody.

I suppose the lack of restraints on the steeplechase isn't surprising given that back then pretty much everybody rode real horses at least once in a while and real horses STILL lack restraints, as do motorcycles.  So why put any on a mechanical version?  The lack of lifejackets on that water coaster, where car physically separated from wheeled chassis and became a true, floating boat that could actually capsize seems a bit harder to figure, though.  I guess the water was probably only knee deep.  But none of that compares to the several attractions that physically hurled riders around  into each other and the walls.  I wonder how many teeth you could pick up from under those things :).

The most insane thing to me, though, by modern safety standards, was that undulating steel sheet with the free-range, user-steerable cars bobbing along on it.  That in itself is no biggie, it's that this required a crowd of expendable operators out in traffic pushing cars that had gotten stuck.  I'm sure those guys suffered many a broken ankle from being run over.  OSHA no doubt put an end to that sort of thing :(.

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: JCat on July 21, 2018, 09:06 AM
Nice to see you stop by! It's been a long time!

It may have been Fairyland. I honestly can't remember either, and I think it was only around for a short period.

Thanks! Check it out: Found it on someone's home vid.  At about 0:33 you can see the left side painted wall of the ride with its castle topping. It was called "Wonders of Fairyland". 

http://youtu.be/f7yUzyPaRc0

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: wowmanrct on July 21, 2018, 09:33 AM
Comments on the video. First - why jump to 1:01 to see the Steeplechase...the entire video was amazing. So restate what BH said. The lack of restraints, the lack of worrying about bodily harm is amazing.

Also, what everyone was wearing back in the day...Wouldn't it be great if Planco could add a vintage guest pack...where they are all dressed like that?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: citytrader on July 21, 2018, 02:19 PM
Ah, geez, Rich, that old video brought a tear to my eye.

Well, I hate to break all your hearts, but I did not actually make that film!

JCat, hope you like the new signs;

(https://i.imgur.com/e9Kv4m6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oAs0BqY.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: wabigbear on July 21, 2018, 03:56 PM
Well, I hate to break all your hearts, but I did not actually make that film!



Yes, but I saw you in the background in a number of the shots...
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: Bullethead on July 21, 2018, 06:22 PM
Yes, but I saw you in the background in a number of the shots...

I think he was the guy in the tuxedo and bowler getting thrashed by the multiple spinning platforms ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Steeplechase Park"
Post by: JCat on July 21, 2018, 06:30 PM
Well, I hate to break all your hearts, but I did not actually make that film!

JCat, hope you like the new signs;
Nice! Reading the side text of the ride in the video footage was a bit Wheel of Fortune-ish - I see you got it.  ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Just keep building..."
Post by: citytrader on July 25, 2018, 11:36 AM
Most guests got to Coney Island on the NYC subway system.

Brooklyn Mass Transit had four lines that all ran through Coney Island. Here's a shot of the station;

(https://www.coneyislandhistory.org/sites/default/files/styles/collection_enlarged/public/documents/697/images/55370_ca_object_representations_media_855_original.png?width=1908px&height=1280px)

Here's my version;

(https://i.imgur.com/mxYsiWt.jpg)

You may notice a name reference. Although this is the first I have let drop, they are all over Coney Island.

Closeup of the facade;

(https://i.imgur.com/uw8tmKO.jpg)

Interestingly, the city built a whole new station back in 2004, but they kept the stone facade;

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D5EJ51/stillwell-avenue-subway-station-coney-island-brooklyn-new-york-city-D5EJ51.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Just keep building..."
Post by: Fisherman on July 25, 2018, 12:25 PM
nice work!  I love all the work you've done on all these filler buildings.  Really adds to the charm of the whole project!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Just keep building..."
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 25, 2018, 02:22 PM
That last picture: For a newer building that's actually quite attractive.  It references all the historical charm of the area, and they utilized and preserved an original element.  I wish more cities would do that.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Just keep building..."
Post by: citytrader on July 25, 2018, 02:59 PM
nice work!  I love all the work you've done on all these filler buildings.  Really adds to the charm of the whole project!

Thank you Derek!There are  alot of them! At last count, I had 81 separate structures. My computer is really starting to drag. May have to invest in a better card.

That last picture: For a newer building that's actually quite attractive.  It references all the historical charm of the area, and they utilized and preserved an original element.  I wish more cities would do that.

Yes, it's an interesting looking structure. At night it lights up like one of the attractions;

(https://st2.depositphotos.com/1483008/10911/i/950/depositphotos_109112902-stock-photo-coney-island-subway-station.jpg)

I thought about modeling it, but decided to stay as true to the post war period as I can. What was a real pain was figuring out that this little one story building was actually the BMT. Go figure!

Have to love the top hat!

(https://i.imgur.com/FPx6n5X.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Just keep building..."
Post by: Bullethead on July 25, 2018, 08:11 PM
Wow.  I'd have never recognized that collection of storefronts as a subway station if you hand't told me.  Of course, subways (apart from and poboy shops) are alien things where I live, as you can't dig far without hitting water.  But anyway, your rendition looks awesome, both of the old and new stations.

But I guess I'll have to stay out of NYC for a while now, seeing as they've put up wanted posters of my mugshot :D

Seriously, I"m quite flattered you stuck my forum avatar up in this awesome project.  Thanks!  That avatar was made by a German friend of mine in the flightsim world.  He morphed my face onto a portrait of Ben Thompson, a famous Texas gambler, gunfighter, and lawman.  That's where the top hat comes from.  It was only after getting into PC that I learned of the connection between top hats and Mr. Bones' Wild Ride, but I think that fits me so I stuck with it ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Just keep building..."
Post by: Bullethead on July 25, 2018, 08:13 PM
Double post. Sorry.  Please delete
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: citytrader on July 28, 2018, 09:15 AM
Here's an oldie but a goody;

(https://i.imgur.com/mXJg7mb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YxAzo3G.jpg)

Loosely copied off the ark at Kennywood, as it looked in the 1930's.

(http://www.laffinthedark.com/articles/noahsark/kennywood1.jpg)

The queue is actually for a centrum ride placed next to it. The animals are off the workshop. I tried making a whale, but they all looked laughable, then I realized you can recolor the shark! Instant orca!  ;D

Looks good during the day. The shark even spurts water!

(https://i.imgur.com/WqaXJhP.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: shyguy on July 28, 2018, 10:41 AM
I love all the latest additions. The Wonders of Fairyland facade is especially well done and so charming. And love the new Noah's Ark. For a minute, I was trying to figure out how that orca was made until I realized it was a shark. Didn't know you could re-color them.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: Fisherman on July 28, 2018, 12:43 PM
Oh did you hide a ride inside?  It looks GREAT!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: JB on July 28, 2018, 02:58 PM
The lighting in the two night shots makes your Noah's Ark look like an actual indoor model, maybe 5 or 6 feet across. Amazing what this game (and those who use it :P) can do!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: citytrader on July 28, 2018, 03:03 PM
I love all the latest additions. The Wonders of Fairyland facade is especially well done and so charming. And love the new Noah's Ark. For a minute, I was trying to figure out how that orca was made until I realized it was a shark. Didn't know you could re-color them.
I didn't know either. I darkened it up a bit and added the fountain. Close enough to a whale for me!

The lighting in the two night shots makes your Noah's Ark look like an actual indoor model, maybe 5 or 6 feet across. Amazing what this game (and those who use it :P) can do!
Thank you! Still tweaking the lighting, but I think the four corner torches give that interesting glow.

Oh did you hide a ride inside?  It looks GREAT!

Well, not really!

I added a bit more shrubbery;

(https://i.imgur.com/YaF8GQb.jpg)

The peeps go up the ramps and enter the ark then go below decks;

(https://i.imgur.com/3yDLzYT.jpg)

emerging through the secret door;

(https://i.imgur.com/SxoJQsC.jpg)

And then to the ride. I guess it's just a fake ride/queue for the Centrum next to the ark. I tried the kiddie ferris wheel, but it lacks the excitement and peeps don't go through the queue to ride.

Noah in his hoop skirt and candy cane welcomes you aboard!

(https://i.imgur.com/CbiZ08T.jpg)

The ark itself and the cabin roof are all individual pieces. It looked a lot better than the in game walls or roof. I used haunted beams for the ark. Still deciding if I should recolor it green or something.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 28, 2018, 03:29 PM
Clever, original, and well executed.  This project is starting to give Kaleidoscope Piers a run for the money...  :shifty:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: citytrader on July 28, 2018, 05:03 PM
Clever, original, and well executed.  This project is starting to give Kaleidoscope Piers a run for the money...  :shifty:
Oh I doubt that! Derek is one of a kind!!!  :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: JB on July 28, 2018, 05:44 PM
Noah in his hoop skirt and candy cane welcomes you aboard!

Nice to know it's historically accurate. :P
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: Salad Fries on July 28, 2018, 06:37 PM
OMG! Love your Ark!

Noah's Ark is my favorite attraction at Kennywood & is the last functional one left of its kind in the world (there's still one in Blackpool Pleasure Beach, but it is only decoration now).
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: citytrader on July 28, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nice to know it's historically accurate. :P
Of course, everyone knows Noah wore a hoop skirt and had a fondness for peppermint.

OMG! Love your Ark!

Noah's Ark is my favorite attraction at Kennywood & is the last functional one left of its kind in the world (there's still one in Blackpool Pleasure Beach, but it is only decoration now).

Yes, the one at Kennywood is great! They have some wonderful old rides there. It's nice that they keep them going!

Decided on a paint and ride change;

(https://i.imgur.com/LzGe7x3.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "Noah's Ark..."
Post by: citytrader on July 29, 2018, 02:27 PM
The Mirror Castle on the Bowery was just a fake facade, but now is a functional maze!

(https://i.imgur.com/ClMZvL8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xqOgvR2.jpg)

I laid out a functional queue on the diagonal, and pushed it into the next building, where a flat ride sits. Peeps dutifully march through the glass maze, and disappear! No one seems to make it out the exit!

(https://i.imgur.com/0G58m3Q.jpg)

Looks eerie at night!

(https://i.imgur.com/i8hgKx2.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: wowmanrct on July 29, 2018, 03:09 PM
very cool
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Salad Fries on July 29, 2018, 03:44 PM
Incredible! Love mirror mazes!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Fisherman on July 29, 2018, 04:01 PM
That's brilliant.  Looks GREAT on the diagonal like that.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: LuxDreaming on July 29, 2018, 08:09 PM
That maze is stunning!!!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Bullethead on July 29, 2018, 08:37 PM
I much prefer the new version of the Ark ;)

And that House of Mirrors is NIFTY!  Hmm....  What if you used billboards to take pics of random peeps walking through and then put them up on the walls so the peeps walking through at the moment would have a totally different reflection?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: citytrader on July 30, 2018, 05:40 AM
Thank you guys! I guess I really should rename it glass maze, not mirror maze!

Anyway, here's an overview of the whole Noah's Ark area. Those structures in the rear are just facades to hide the edge of the bench;

(https://i.imgur.com/agw2eiM.jpg)

As far as I can tell, McCulloughs Kiddie park was the very first enclosed kids park where you bought tickets and rode the rides. All the concessions were privately owned, and at the end of the day, they would turn in their tickets and get reimbursed. Unfortunately, there are no pics of the actual area that I can find, so I just made the place up. Found a nice use for the vintage entrance arch;

(https://i.imgur.com/SU7nREZ.jpg)

More to come!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Bullethead on July 30, 2018, 07:44 AM
That arch looks pretty good as you've used it.  But you know, with the right paint, you can make it extremely creepy, especially as the hands make a sort of fondling motion..... :D  I made the mistake of doing that to it when I was 1st looking through the Vintage parts, and now that image is stuck in my head....
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: citytrader on August 05, 2018, 04:43 PM
BH, you kill me sometimes!

Here's just a few shots around McCulloughs;

Ride tickets are five for a quarter, and you need four to ride, say, the carousel. Tickets available here;

(https://i.imgur.com/wleBIzr.jpg)

Those new Victorian lamps just cry out for a little color. Peonies grow well near the ocean;

(https://i.imgur.com/nE63Pjq.jpg)

Many of Fisherman's rides made it into the Kiddie park;

(https://i.imgur.com/LmYLclW.jpg)

Bullethead Industries sold McCullough their wonderful Luna Auto station. McCullough felt it needed a bit more Victorian flair;

(https://i.imgur.com/7e9Jija.jpg)

And a ceiling;

(https://i.imgur.com/JnpgjC9.jpg)

The Carousel fits right in;

(https://i.imgur.com/FrXWr3p.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Bullethead on August 05, 2018, 07:52 PM
Hey, thanks for using my old cars :).  They do look better with the Vintage trim, and I shall tell the folks at Dixie Landin' to make it look more like your version.

As regards the ceiling, I noticed that myself a while back and fixed it in my Dixie Landin' park, but never got around to updating the Workshop item it seems  :wacko:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Fisherman on August 05, 2018, 08:06 PM
I love the kiddie land!  Everything is really coming together nicely.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: xRBz on August 10, 2018, 01:03 PM
I really love the small metal fencing around the merry-go-round. Reminds me to use the stock fences more. Also love how colorful the kids area looks.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Fisherman on August 10, 2018, 02:33 PM
I wonder if Captain Lockjaw has to water the flowers on top of the lamp posts...  It all looks so wonderful, Rich!   :o
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: citytrader on August 10, 2018, 03:02 PM
Thank you all!

Here's one of the in-game vintage buildings, think it was a info booth. I converted it to a hotdog stand!

(https://i.imgur.com/KU87o4C.jpg)

The Loop Da Loop also made into Kiddie Land because it's small!

(https://i.imgur.com/lNHlAE5.jpg)

Was trolling through the workshop and found this wonderful item. With the kind permission of Mr. Orange, this beautiful skin for the ferris wheel has found a home in Coney Island;

(https://i.imgur.com/6B9OmFG.jpg)

It's absolutely gorgeous, and it really fits the style of the adjoining structures. Kudos to Mr. Orange!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/6uDtpgF.jpg)

Coney Island has always had a reputation as a dump. Empty buildings, broken lights and signs, and uncollected trash hardly add up to "family entertainment!"

(https://i.imgur.com/zPz81ND.jpg)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Bullethead on August 10, 2018, 04:18 PM
Wow, that's gorgeous!  Yes indeed, kudos to Mr. Orange. (I can't remember which one he was in Reservoir Dogs :D )

If you're going for the seedy look in places, I have a "Skid Row Flophouse" hotel you might be interested in.  It's not on the Workshop yet but will be later this evening.  It's small, only like a dozen rooms wedged into it.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: citytrader on August 11, 2018, 08:08 AM
Thank you for the flophouse! I have indeed added it to the Bowery, it fits right in. I did make a few adjustments, adding some windows, changing up some colors, and removing one floor from the flophouse itself. I hope you like!

(https://i.imgur.com/CjxONTR.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: Bullethead on August 11, 2018, 01:34 PM
Heheh, it looks even seedier that before ;).  Great job!  I'm quite flattered.  I really enjoyed the tour, too.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950! "A Functional Maze..."
Post by: citytrader on August 12, 2018, 04:25 PM
A small stage has been added to McCulloughs, where the Dapper Dans are performing today!

(https://i.imgur.com/Sy1sh8z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tBE4Hyr.jpg)

Stage available on the Workshop;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1477064448
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: Bullethead on August 12, 2018, 10:23 PM
There's quite some ingenuity in that stage.  I'll be stealing some of those ideas ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: cody on August 12, 2018, 11:25 PM
That is a super detailed stage. Looks perfect for any midway themed area and can host a variety of live entertainment offerings. Amazing design!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 12, 2019, 07:24 PM
I can't believe it's been seven months since I've updated this thread!

So teh combination of the update and my buying a new computer has led me to reopening this park. It now runs smooth as silk, and only slows down when I let in more than 6000 peeps, so I pretty pleased.

Anyway, a little new construction;

The real Clement Hotel and Crown Bar on 15th Street;

(https://i.imgur.com/dAM0Vi5.jpg)

My version;

(https://i.imgur.com/zYtATZ5.jpg)

The fire house is next!

Here's just a few pics to remind you all of how big this sucker is;

The Hurricane on the boardwalk;

(https://i.imgur.com/9j3EL2X.jpg)

The Wonders of Fairy Land;

(https://i.imgur.com/CvUMgMi.jpg)

The Thunderbolt facade at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/4tkYHZm.jpg)

Tilt-A-Whirl and one of a dozen amusement parlors;

(https://i.imgur.com/E0nx1oa.jpg)

A Fascination parlor;

(https://i.imgur.com/9LwuyFl.jpg)

Miles of Boardwalk;

(https://i.imgur.com/8MrMtzZ.jpg)

A private club on the Bowery;

(https://i.imgur.com/UetiEuN.jpg)

Rides literally crammed into every vacant lot;

(https://i.imgur.com/iNkHKsG.jpg)

And finally, an overview of most of the bench;

(https://i.imgur.com/MePOKjj.jpg)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: Fisherman on March 12, 2019, 07:43 PM
Congrats on the new computer!  That can make all the difference.  I did that half-way through building Ghost Mine.  What a difference.  Of course now I need an upgrade again.  ha ha.

The park looks so good, Rich.  I love all the details and the nod to SGW is really nice.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: JPAlmighT on March 12, 2019, 08:19 PM
Great to see this again.  I love the overhead, but I think even more than that I like the "miles of boardwalk" shot...  it really gives a sense of scope on this massive project.   :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: corkscrewloop on March 13, 2019, 11:15 AM
Amazing boardwalk!!! Such a fantastic project! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: JCat on March 13, 2019, 04:27 PM
Hey CT -

Yeah, making my usual  yearly appearance - hopefully I can find time to stick around for once. Just wanted to jump back in and commend you on a great job. Some of those shots look like the days I was there as a kid. The Cyclone in the distance off the boardwalk. I remember that view from Coney Island Beach. I would sit there in the sand and stare at the Cyclone and Parachute practically all day, while everyone else jumping in and out of the water. The next-to-last shot is very reminiscent of that one street that had all the crazy flat rides, lined up, snuggly side by side (during the period I was there which began in the 60's).
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 15, 2019, 01:43 PM
Thank you guys so much for all the kind comments!

Just finished up 15th street. The Fire Station, the Crown Bar, and Clement Hotel;

(https://i.imgur.com/8LxlHKS.jpg)

Only three square blocks to go!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: JPAlmighT on March 15, 2019, 07:29 PM
I love projects that are about more than just a park.  You're doing some justice to that city!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 17, 2019, 01:09 PM
I love projects that are about more than just a park.  You're doing some justice to that city!

Thanks buddy! It's a daunting task!

Art imitating life imitating Planet Coaster! I found several pictures online from Woody Allen's Wonder Wheel film, that takes place in the 1950's, and they did film on Coney Island, where they redecorated a number of buildings for the film. Here's one example;

(https://i.imgur.com/CMyjiaX.jpg)

My version;

(https://i.imgur.com/8d4JqzJ.jpg)

Thank you chewiebacco for the roll up doors. You can find them on the workshop here;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1380246154 (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1380246154)

I may change up a few of the signs, but I kind of like it!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: Fisherman on March 17, 2019, 01:16 PM
Looks really good, Rich.  Nice mix of old and new with the signs and billboards.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: shyguy on March 18, 2019, 12:38 PM
So glad to see this project continue. Love all the new additions.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 19, 2019, 07:49 PM
Looks really good, Rich.  Nice mix of old and new with the signs and billboards.

So glad to see this project continue. Love all the new additions.

Thank you guys! I really appreciate the nice comments!

The amusement area under the Thunderbolt is starting to take shape;

(https://i.imgur.com/Z2Be7vL.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: Fisherman on March 20, 2019, 05:45 AM
I love the variety of architectural styles.  And the billboard images for the curtains on the photo booths!  WOW!  How did you find something like that?  It's perfect!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: JPAlmighT on March 20, 2019, 06:24 AM
Exactly how I'd expect it to look in real life.  But WOW on that photo booth.  Holy billboards, batman!   :love:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 21, 2019, 03:29 AM
I love the variety of architectural styles.  And the billboard images for the curtains on the photo booths!  WOW!  How did you find something like that?  It's perfect!

Exactly how I'd expect it to look in real life.  But WOW on that photo booth.  Holy billboards, batman!   :love:

Thanks guys! I found a pic of the old time photo booth, and just added the boards and lights to give it a bit of dimension. No real trick at all!

Central Baths was one of several smaller bath houses that rented out beach equipment;

(https://i.imgur.com/zgHjcFX.jpg)

My version;

(https://i.imgur.com/0dSr95a.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 22, 2019, 07:49 PM
Found this pic of a small dark ride, and tried to recreate it;

(https://i.imgur.com/A4O1WiL.jpg)

This facade just about finishes up the Tornado Bobs businesses;

(https://i.imgur.com/WGT7gnI.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: Fisherman on March 22, 2019, 09:03 PM
I LOVE how dedicated you are to the history!  It's looking so nice!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 23, 2019, 04:09 AM
It's just so cheap looking! Even at a dime, I can't imagine it made money!

My understanding is it was just a small pretzel.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: corkscrewloop on March 23, 2019, 11:17 AM
Fantastic atmosphere on that pics! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950
Post by: citytrader on March 24, 2019, 04:25 AM
The iconic Tornado Bobs;

(https://i.imgur.com/o9usOyF.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JPAlmighT on March 24, 2019, 05:08 AM
ooh... that filter was made for this project!   :o
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: Fisherman on March 24, 2019, 11:27 AM
Rich, I love this!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: shyguy on March 24, 2019, 12:28 PM
I had to look twice to determine if that was an actual old photo or Planet Coaster.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on March 24, 2019, 02:54 PM
I thought that was a real vintage postcard until I saw the little green aliens. :alien:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on March 24, 2019, 06:50 PM
Thank you so very much! I'm thrilled you all like it!
I played around with the track arrangement on this coaster for almost six months, and I know it's not perfect, but it works pretty well within the space I set aside for it.

Here's the reverse angle of the coaster;

(https://i.imgur.com/zG1SC7F.jpg)

One of the many food vendors;

(https://i.imgur.com/UsmFDKt.jpg)

The completed haunted mansion with a zombie ticket taker!

(https://i.imgur.com/JBocAr9.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on March 24, 2019, 08:07 PM
Your Haunted Mansion looks a whole lot better, and more interesting, than the original.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on March 26, 2019, 03:59 PM
Your Haunted Mansion looks a whole lot better, and more interesting, than the original.
Thanks!

Thunderbolt entrance;

(https://i.imgur.com/i5XT9bo.jpg)

Street side of Fairyland;

(https://i.imgur.com/OdzGppU.jpg)

The complete facade;

(https://i.imgur.com/XT8jRy3.jpg)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on March 26, 2019, 05:01 PM
I wanna ride Fairyland. :)  The façade really draws you in with its faux castle architecture, the gingerbread décor, and that amazing painted fairytale backdrop. Although in real life, it seems like the façade was usually the best part with these old rides.

Ted's Root Beer? Was that a real thing back-in-the-day?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on March 26, 2019, 06:22 PM
Yes, you are correct. If memory serves, the interior was mostly black, with a few tableau of famous nursery rhymes. I believe the entire ride was imported from Europe, but not sure. This is the only photo I have been able to find;

(https://i.imgur.com/mDawv9b.jpg)

Found this on a web site regarding Ted's Root Beer;Major League Baseball star Ted Williams played his entire 22-year career as left fielder for the Boston Red Sox. He was recognized twice as Most Valuable Player, one the Triple Crown twice and led the league in batting six times. He was the last MLB player to bat over .400 in a season and holds the highest batting average of anyone credited with 500 career home runs.

In an effort to boost slumping sales, Moxie Corporation hired Williams as Assistant Advertising Manager in 1957. His salary was reportedly $1,000 a year as the company vied to capitalize on his stardom as an American baseball great. They released the soda, and it remained in production for almost ten years.


I guess I'm cheating a little, as my Coney Island is set in 1950, and this Root Beer came out in '57, but I like the sign!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on March 26, 2019, 08:39 PM
Again, your Fairyland ride looks much better than the one in the photo. ;) The photo looks to be relatively recent; maybe from the '60s-'80s? Perhaps the ride looked much grander in its heyday.

I forgot to mention in my last post that I like the big Thunderbolt sign with the letters arched underneath. :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JPAlmighT on March 27, 2019, 05:13 AM
I was just about to say the same thing about your Thunderbolt sign.  That's some patient work right there.  :)

I'm not sure that "creamy" is a word that should be used to describe root beer.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: corkscrewloop on March 27, 2019, 11:39 AM
Those pics look almost like real postcards from the good old times. You do such an amazing work here! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on March 30, 2019, 02:30 PM
Thank you for the wonderful comments!

Feltman's was an enormous restaurant on Surf Avenue at Jones Walk. It boasted seating for over two thousand, had private halls for let, and even had a beautiful Dentzel Carousel in it's lobby!

(https://imgs.6sqft.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/20231306/Feltmans_Coney_Island-2.jpg)

My Version;

(https://i.imgur.com/LIpApgK.jpg)

Outdoor and indoor seating is available;

(https://i.imgur.com/HrXi5TF.jpg)

Still need to add the sunroof.

Nooks and crannies are being filled in, slowly but surely!

(https://i.imgur.com/uFOHUch.jpg)

The RedBaron ride kept breaking down, and then it threw a kid, so it has been replaced by a gorgeous import from Europe;

(https://i.imgur.com/nk95vfO.jpg)

The Ali Baba Funhouse located under the Tornado Bobs;

(https://i.imgur.com/japvoeA.jpg)

You can see the Bobs coaster flying by overhead!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: Fisherman on March 30, 2019, 03:11 PM
Oh that last shot with the coaster shadow is so nice!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on March 30, 2019, 04:17 PM
I like the Ali Baba Funhouse façade. It reflects the early 20th century craze for all things Eastern during that time, including Coney Island (and World's Fairs). Your park is set in 1950 but I'm sure there were a few original structures/rides still standing (and operating) then.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on March 31, 2019, 08:43 AM
Yes, that funhouse actually dates to the 1930's, but I needed some excuse to use those beautiful Moroccan wall pieces!

Work is never done;

(https://i.imgur.com/pzMQguv.jpg)

Good luck getting those pallets in the truck!

At night, the sanitation department actually drives up the ramps onto the boardwalk and empties all the trash!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on March 31, 2019, 03:30 PM
Another Coney Island institution is Williams Candy. It's been around since about 1910!

(https://i.imgur.com/fDXqFHq.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on April 05, 2019, 12:38 PM
Coney Island's Finest on the job;

(https://i.imgur.com/RY8vfsN.jpg)

The beer bottles are from LULUJARRE and available on the workshop here;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1684314180

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on April 05, 2019, 03:57 PM
Ha! The guy looks a little well-dressed for a public drunk. Maybe he just got fired from his cushy office job.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JPAlmighT on April 06, 2019, 04:41 AM
I love the intimacy of the staged peep photos.

Although I don't think any man in the 1950s would be caught wearing pink.  Unless it was white and got washed with the towels :P
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: corkscrewloop on April 06, 2019, 04:55 AM
Those postcard shots are pure eye candy! Your project is fantastic! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on April 07, 2019, 12:29 PM
Ha! The guy looks a little well-dressed for a public drunk. Maybe he just got fired from his cushy office job.

I believe he works at Steeplechase Park, where shirts and ties for employees were required!  :D

I love the intimacy of the staged peep photos.

Although I don't think any man in the 1950s would be caught wearing pink.  Unless it was white and got washed with the towels :P

Kind of a dark red, but you're right! I changed it to white!

Those postcard shots are pure eye candy! Your project is fantastic! :)

Thank you so much!

With MaskedBandit's kind permission, and just a couple of minor tweaks, the Boardwalk Bump comes to Coney Island!

(https://i.imgur.com/qOd2zNH.jpg)

Lane's Irish House used to stand on the corner of 15th and the Bowery. Yoday it is a parking lot;

(https://i.imgur.com/f5pvNOZ.jpg)

Still a bit to do, but basically finished;

(https://i.imgur.com/j3WrP0Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on April 07, 2019, 06:33 PM
I love the look of the Boardwalk Bump. An eye-catching sign and a brightly colored paint job. The spires make all the difference. And you can see (and hear) the bumper cars from the street, too. :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on April 19, 2019, 05:31 AM
I love the look of the Boardwalk Bump. An eye-catching sign and a brightly colored paint job. The spires make all the difference. And you can see (and hear) the bumper cars from the street, too. :up:

Thank you, but aside from a paint job, the work is all done by Maskedbandit.

Here's a new Funhouse on the Boardwalk;

(https://i.imgur.com/Hvimx4L.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: Fisherman on April 19, 2019, 07:29 AM
Now THAT'S how you use the creepy clown face!  Looks wonderful, Rich!!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: Bullethead on April 19, 2019, 10:36 AM
Very glad to see you back working on this!  Also glad that's a recent thing so I didn't have all that many posts to wade through.  However, you've still gotten so much done in just the last month!

To me, this is not only excellent art but such a history lesson.  I knew nothing about Coney Island until you started this thread.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on April 19, 2019, 11:48 AM
Thank you, guys! So glad you are enjoying this!

Here's the Funhouse with some more lights added and a normal filter;

(https://i.imgur.com/vtBnXXn.jpg)

Lots and lots of emergency lights sunk into those art pieces! Can't decide if I need to add more lights or not.

During the day;

(https://i.imgur.com/IV9XW6e.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: JB on April 19, 2019, 02:33 PM
I was going to suggest adding a little more light to the clown face but I think that would make the "HOUSE" text and the colorful disks atop the façade look dimmer. Also, the less light on that creepy cannibalistic clown, the better. ;)  Wasn't it Steeplechase Park that had a similar toothy sign/logo?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: Bullethead on April 19, 2019, 06:05 PM
You know, if you could work in a black art shape rectangle into the face's upper teeth to make a gap in the middle, you'd have a great caricature of Mad's Alfred E. Newman on acid :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: citytrader on June 18, 2019, 03:38 PM
Bored waiting for a table at Feltman's Restaurant?

How about a spin on their 1919 Denzel Carousel?

(https://i.imgur.com/GEBUYdg.jpg)

Still plodding along on this behemoth. Might finish it up someday!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: Fisherman on June 18, 2019, 03:39 PM
Yay!  Glad to see this back!  It looks great!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - The Tornado debuts!
Post by: shyguy on June 18, 2019, 03:41 PM
By all means, keep plodding. :P
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: Bullethead on June 18, 2019, 05:18 PM
Still plodding along on this behemoth. Might finish it up someday!

Glad to see this!  I'm thinking the new city building parts in Ghostbusters will help you along.  And there's something I like about buildings with carousels in the lobby for no apparent reason :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: JPAlmighT on June 18, 2019, 06:56 PM
This is good news, was hoping to see you come back to this project this summer.   :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: citytrader on June 19, 2019, 05:33 AM
Thank you guys! It's nice to be back!

I believe I've mentioned a few times that Coney Island has always had it's seedy underside;

(https://i.imgur.com/vQBlC9m.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: wowmanrct on June 19, 2019, 06:16 AM
thats a great little scene
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: Bullethead on June 19, 2019, 08:50 AM
I believe I've mentioned a few times that Coney Island has always had it's seedy underside;

Heheh, to they still have those contests where street gangs compete to see who can strip a car the fastest?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: corkscrewloop on June 19, 2019, 09:16 AM
Next time... better park somewhere else. Hope this was not your car, Citytrader  :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: citytrader on June 19, 2019, 10:32 AM
Cruising up and down Surf Avenue is still the thing to do!

(https://i.imgur.com/FfUDlX5.jpg)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: shyguy on June 19, 2019, 01:05 PM
I love that last screenshot. It would make a great postcard.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: citytrader on June 19, 2019, 03:13 PM
I don't think I ever showed the completed Lane's Irish House;

The real thing;

(https://i.imgur.com/wD1WROq.jpg)

My recreation;

(https://i.imgur.com/5kU9BAW.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: JPAlmighT on June 19, 2019, 03:18 PM
Now there's a building with some character -- both versions!  (although I think yours could use more signs   :P)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: Bullethead on June 19, 2019, 04:59 PM
I thought the place selling Roast Beef Sundaes had 1 too many signs :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: Fisherman on June 20, 2019, 07:34 AM
Thanks for the sneak peek at the park, Rich!  Your screenshots just don't do justice to the massiveness of this project.  It is just breathtaking.

I love this so much:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYJrVve.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UQLxb19.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: citytrader on June 20, 2019, 02:01 PM
Thanks guys for the shout out on the main page!

the-dorks mine ride finds it's way onto Surf Avenue;

(https://i.imgur.com/y0JIydv.jpg)

Fills in a nice little corner!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Still working away!
Post by: citytrader on June 26, 2019, 06:13 AM
I wanted to take a moment to thank several people for their wonderful structures that I have asked for/borrowed, or just plain stolen for this project.

First up, Mr. Orange for his wonderful Blue Heaven Ferris Wheel;

(https://i.imgur.com/LN8BLRv.jpg)

And profmarvel67's wonderful side friction coaster, Roung the Horn;

(https://i.imgur.com/qZDTYRl.jpg)

MaskedBandit graciously allowed me to use a couple of his structures;

His Uthris Greek Restaurant;

(https://i.imgur.com/IaOOMqe.jpg)

and his wonderful Boardwalk Bumps;

(https://i.imgur.com/7PszpJZ.jpg)

Bullethead has contributed his skid row flats;

(https://i.imgur.com/1syuqVZ.jpg)

And he is currently working on something else!  :drool:

Last, but not least, Wagi has contributed a number of structures that really capture the vibe of Coney Island!

Ruby's Clam House;

(https://i.imgur.com/ns2RHbo.jpg)

The Circus/Side Show attraction;

(https://i.imgur.com/L3qIwKC.jpg)

Grashorn Hardware;

(https://i.imgur.com/LSfWHXD.jpg)

Child's Restaurant;

(https://i.imgur.com/hzHAdfH.jpg)

And finally, Gargiulo's Italian Restaurant;

(https://i.imgur.com/eSJSbYb.jpg)

I also wanted to post an overview of the entire bench because of all the requests I have received;

(https://i.imgur.com/yWf7ELa.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Cinestri0 on June 26, 2019, 06:26 AM
It's all coming together so nice and so wonderful it really is a beautiful thing you're doing here! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 26, 2019, 08:17 AM
I'm honored to have contributed to this fantastic and very informative project ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JPAlmighT on June 26, 2019, 09:18 AM
Last weekend I was honored to hop into citytrader's time machine and see all of this up close.  [So glad you posted the overhead, because I don't think any of us realized just how big this project had become...]    This is truly a landmark project, and the way so much of it matches up with actual maps is just staggering.

I had to take a couple of pictures of my own...

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/779601777694985228/930C1311F1DFC4B6234270BFCCEAA3524B741DFE/)

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/779601777694985080/B8D0B6F660459A9CFFAC14A1B1A768326957BA67/)

Here's to hoping your summer allows LOTS of time to keep adding on to this wonderful piece of history.   :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 26, 2019, 10:40 AM
Thank you! And I apologize to you, as I forgot to post your wonderful Tickler ride in my acknowledgements! It was actually one of the very first things that was placed in the park, and I just forgot about it. It is very popular with the peeps! Sorry!

(https://i.imgur.com/tMQfRQt.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JPAlmighT on June 26, 2019, 11:04 AM
oh, that old thing.. :P   No apology necessary, you showcased the truly talented builders and their creations (Wagi's buildings really stood out to me when I was touring the park)  :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 26, 2019, 03:09 PM
oh, that old thing.. :P

About the best spinning coaster I've seen.  Certainly better than the Maurer SC2000, which is a real neck-breaker :).  And I'm flattered one of your beauty shots had my skid row flophouse in it.  Of course, Rich modified it a lot and to the better :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: wabigbear on June 27, 2019, 04:31 AM
It's always fun to contribute something to one of your parks Rich!  Especially the part where I get to take my time and do a small project that I LIKE doing and you get to do all the boring stuff like placing paths, and fences, and terra-forming!   

I wish MY park projects were that way...  ;D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 27, 2019, 05:26 AM
It's always fun to contribute something to one of your parks Rich!  Especially the part where I get to take my time and do a small project that I LIKE doing and you get to do all the boring stuff like placing paths, and fences, and terra-forming! ;D

You forgot stringing the power lines :D.  But yeah, I feel exactly the same.

Speaking of power lines, I think the ones here are brilliant.  They look so real, you tend not to notice them in the pics because we mentally filter them out in daily life.  So, IMHO, that the power lines in the park can hide so well in plain sight is a testament to their perfection.

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 27, 2019, 03:29 PM
Thanks guys! It's comments like yours that make it all worthwhile!

Here's the Boardwalk side of Astroland Park;

(https://i.imgur.com/nJkHDTm.jpg)

And here's mine;

(https://i.imgur.com/lBW4jCo.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 27, 2019, 03:51 PM
Very nice job.

What's a "shrimp chicken"?  Is it what yankees call a banty?  Or perhaps a Cornish hen?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 28, 2019, 04:30 AM
What's a "shrimp chicken"?  Is it what yankees call a banty?  Or perhaps a Cornish hen?

You got me, Bullethead!

Here's a bit of Astroland!

(https://i.imgur.com/JYAxGkW.jpg)

Very special thanks to JediM, JPAlmighT, and Fisherman for their wonderful kiddie rides!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 28, 2019, 05:59 AM
You got me, Bullethead!

I just came up with another idea....  Maybe it's a whole chicken stuffed with shrimp and then fried?  That actually sounds like something that would be common in Lousy Anna, but I've never heard of that being done.  But I bet I can find somebody willing to give it a try if I suggest it :)

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Very special thanks to JediM, JPAlmighT, and Fisherman for their wonderful kiddie rides!

Yes, excellent fake rides and associated features!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: wowmanrct on June 28, 2019, 08:19 AM
I believe its like chicken fried steak. Shrimp with a thick flour based breading...but I have also seen fried chicken wings stuffed with shrimp before as well.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 28, 2019, 12:50 PM
Here's another section of Astroland, with kiddie rides compliments of Bullethead;

(https://i.imgur.com/jmTNPWE.jpg)

Found this on the workshop. So cute!

(https://i.imgur.com/Xsmg1Pl.jpg)

Boy, I wish we had working kiddie rides!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: shyguy on June 28, 2019, 01:00 PM
Astroland looks great. And that nickel spaceship was a great find.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 28, 2019, 03:05 PM
Boy, I wish we had working kiddie rides!

OH GAWD, you used my "Ducky-Go-Round"   :facepalm:  I'll never be able to show my face here again.  But at least you had the decency to keep it well in the background  :n00b:

There's less shame in the Frog Hopper, though, because it actually began life as Fisherman's wonderful "Li'l Lighthouse".  Not even the hacksaws of BSI employees can totally ruin that :)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 28, 2019, 08:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kfBHYTf.jpg)

Thank you, Fisherman, for your excellent giant skull!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 29, 2019, 04:27 AM
I also wanted to take a moment and thank all the people who contributed small attractions, rides, and miscellaneous other bits to the park!

I slightly modified the-dork's mine ride to come up with Dirty Dans;

(https://i.imgur.com/OAOo8YY.jpg)

stuk71's adorable ladybird ride;

(https://i.imgur.com/lZcpTCK.jpg)

Several of Bullethead's rides;

(https://i.imgur.com/LD5G0JJ.jpg)

I again slightly altered his luna auto station;

(https://i.imgur.com/4omvTC7.jpg)

Not to mention his duckie go round!!!

And , of course, Fisherman's numerous contributions, including his game booths, his vending carts, and his beautiful kiddie rides!

Here's a few;

(https://i.imgur.com/jtkSZHP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JeTMI4o.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YyM4C0C.jpg)

Took apart his ride to create a construction scene;

(https://i.imgur.com/LhiCA8f.jpg)

Spent an entire afternoon getting his beautiful whip ride to fit in my structure (I'm using the new Frontier whip elsewhere!)

(https://i.imgur.com/zLkudSH.jpg)

I removed the shack components of many of his game stalls to get them to fit inside my structures. They look fantastic!

(https://i.imgur.com/XFQHMqP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fV4zSDd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WBHNsKA.jpg)



Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 29, 2019, 05:16 AM
stuk71's adorable ladybird ride;

I'm guessing that's TMT, right?  I can't imagine it being PbP :)  Either way, though, it's outstanding.

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Several of Bullethead's rides;

I wish I could claim that excellent yellow boat ride but, unfortunately, I can't.  But I do accept the blame for the Luna Autos  :mad:

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Spent an entire afternoon getting his beautiful whip ride to fit in my structure (I'm using the new Frontier whip elsewhere!)

And too good effect.  That's a great skin for it.  I think Fisherman's fake Whip looks better than the new working version so I'm always torn between them.

That construction scene is one of my favorite places in the park.  It's a nice contrast to the rest of it and makes it seem more like a living place.  Plus you made it look like the crew is paid by the hour so is not in any great hurry, which I think is humorous.  So I'm sure Fisherman will forgive the hacksaw job :)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Fisherman on June 29, 2019, 05:29 AM
Awww thank you, Rich!  I am honored that my blueprints became a part of your project!!

Oh yeah the Dinghy ride was mine...but Bullethead DID make a boat ride too.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 29, 2019, 06:08 AM
Oh yeah the Dinghy ride was mine...but Bullethead DID make a boat ride too.

Naw, the closest I've come to making a boat ride is that the abhorent Ducky-Go-Round has wonky little boats pulled by teams of ugly ducklings.  I did, however, make an even more execrable kiddie biplane ride.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on June 29, 2019, 06:24 AM
I wish I could claim that excellent yellow boat ride but, unfortunately, I can't.  But I do accept the blame for the Luna Autos  :mad:

You are absolutely correct. In my zeal to get this posted, I accidentally posted the pic of Derek's Dingy Dinghies under your name. Sorry to both of you!

Perhaps you would prefer I post this instead;

(https://i.imgur.com/spy4DwJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Fisherman on June 29, 2019, 09:38 AM
ha ha.  no worries.   :D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on June 29, 2019, 03:53 PM
Perhaps you would prefer I post this instead;

OK, how much do you want to keep this quiet?  Sometimes, paying blackmail can't be avoided.... ;D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 01, 2019, 01:06 PM
I expect a check soon...

Meanwhile, back at Astroland, Spook A Rama is complete. Just like the real one, it's really jammed into a tight little area.

(https://i.imgur.com/8J2uTRc.jpg)

A better look at the facade;

(https://i.imgur.com/8nhNred.jpg)

Looks OK at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/SME9aHr.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JB on July 01, 2019, 01:37 PM
The façade looks great! Is the interior themed? The ride is sort of the opposite of Dr. Who's TARDIS-  big on the outside, small on the inside. ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Walle_Epcot on July 01, 2019, 04:57 PM
Love this park. It has everything from big to small to the lil' light house! Also, that Spookarama mural is killer!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on July 01, 2019, 05:26 PM
I hope @Fishman will someday forgive me for so butchering his Li'l Lighthouse" to make the Frog Hopper.  It's realistically hideous.  I built it to match the one at Dixie Landin', including the disgusting seats shaped like the gaping mouths of deformed frogs in a variety of weird colors probably denoting poisonous skin.

Fortunately, the billboard of Spookarama glosses over a multitude of sins.  That's quite awesome ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 01, 2019, 06:09 PM
Thanks guys! Here's the real thing;

(https://i.imgur.com/0bzKnqg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MwfYbPE.png)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on July 01, 2019, 06:59 PM
I like your Spookarama better :)  Also what black magic did you use to get the blinky lights to light up with the same colors on 2 adjacent rows on the eaves of the buildings around this area?  They never do that for me.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 02, 2019, 03:52 AM
I agree, the citytrader version of this attraction looks much spookier.  Fantastic use of billboards.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 02, 2019, 04:23 AM
Thank you so much, guys!

I wanted a full sized booth for an awkward corner, so I stripped down one of Derek's game booths and redecorated it. I think it turned out pretty well!

(https://i.imgur.com/H50mrub.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: wowmanrct on July 02, 2019, 06:10 AM
the use of those billboards make that ride look so real. I love it.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JB on July 02, 2019, 03:57 PM
The Coney Cones booth is spot on. :)  Looks just like the permanent/semi-permanent booths that you see at any state or county fair or amusement park.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Fisherman on July 02, 2019, 05:11 PM
Looking wonderful, Rich!!!  Hey is that Pip Squeak in the background of the last shot?   :w00t:  Awww...  you flatter me so.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 02, 2019, 05:43 PM
Yes it is! The mouse coaster, your root beer cart, and the new Coney Cones joins the tea cups ride in Astroland!

(https://i.imgur.com/jMToc4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Fisherman on July 03, 2019, 08:38 AM
Awesome!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 03, 2019, 09:04 AM
No, thank you Derek!

The front half of Astroland from the top of the Wonder Wheel;

(https://i.imgur.com/hZnB4ZV.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on July 03, 2019, 09:21 PM
Really nicely done area, this Astroland, apart from some dubious BSI things.  But otherwise, it really captures the midway/carnival thing.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 04, 2019, 03:40 AM
Thanks! I think. Not sure what BSI stands for.  ;D  (must be showing my age!)

Bat Sh** Insane
BusinesS Improvement
British Standards Institute
Body Substance Isolation
Blood Stream Infection
or possibly the Baker Street Irregulars? (my personal favorite, as I was one!)

Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: wabigbear on July 04, 2019, 05:13 AM
Bullethead Sweatshop Industries, if I recall correctly...


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(must be showing my age!)

Yes...but that has nothing to do with this...
  ;D
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Cinestri0 on July 04, 2019, 07:06 AM
Nice overhead shot! I might be visiting Coney Island in August, and it's been a couple years since I've been there, this project makes me more excited to visit! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on July 04, 2019, 05:37 PM
Thanks! I think. Not sure what BSI stands for.  ;D  (must be showing my age!)
....
or possibly the Baker Street Irregulars? (my personal favorite, as I was one!)
Inquiring minds want to know!

That's a good one!  My favorite, too!  I've read all of Doyle's SH books many times. 

Still, "Batshit Insane" is even better than what my employees mumble around the water cooler, which is "Bullshit, Inc."  :D

But as Wagi says, the official name on all the papers filed with the various governments is "Bullethead Sweatshop Industries"
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: matejakezman on July 07, 2019, 12:57 PM
i just checked this thread again and have to say wow! great job!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 11, 2019, 03:03 PM
Thanks guys! Glad you all are enjoying the park!

Been a little limited for time the last couple of weeks, but here's the next round of pics;

Skiphaul Industries got the contract for that tear down job on the Bowery, and are clearing out the lot;

(https://i.imgur.com/ihQSOYN.jpg)

A little look over the back wall into Astroland at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/74XUMc4.jpg)

Con Edison had to install a substation because of all the power demands on the area;

(https://i.imgur.com/jdWFczO.jpg)

One of those newfangled Flying Eagle rides opens on the Bowery;

(https://i.imgur.com/enYcFvs.jpg)

A new gelato and marshmallow shop open up next to Feltmans. They won't last long!

(https://i.imgur.com/fmXgOnb.jpg)

And last but certainly not least, BSI was contracted to fix the profile on the Tornado Bobs coaster. Despite griping from employees (something about no overtime or hazard pay), the Tornado now sports beautifully contoured turnarounds, and the profile matches the original much more closely!

(https://i.imgur.com/N5vZnPG.jpg)

The interior of the beast looks insane!

(https://i.imgur.com/e69edH8.jpg)

Note the interior is not fully decorated yet. Fantastic job Bullethead!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JPAlmighT on July 11, 2019, 04:14 PM
I was fortunate enough to take a ride on BH's new and improved Tornado Bobs, and I concur he did a fantastic job.  (I thought the original was good too but you definitely feel a difference in the onride.) 

Why won't the new shops next to Feltman's last long?  I love historical accuracy but I certainly hope you don't plan to burn this place down!   :'( :scared:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: JB on July 11, 2019, 04:43 PM
Quote: "Why won't the new shops next to Feltman's last long?"

Because the Stay Puft marshmallow man will grow to gigantic size and trample the whole neighborhood flat, obviously. ;)

I like that overhead view of the coaster- 4 layers of track stacked on top of each other! And, is that eagle balloon always on top of the Flying Eagles ride? This is the first time I've seen it there, yet it's such a natural place for it. (Sorry, I don't have the game, so sometimes I ask questions with obvious answers.)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Fisherman on July 11, 2019, 05:24 PM
This looks so nice, Rich!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 11, 2019, 07:19 PM
Why won't the new shops next to Feltman's last long?  I love historical accuracy but I certainly hope you don't plan to burn this place down!   :'( :scared:

Well, Coney Island was (and still is) a very fluid place. Most businesses and rides usually only last a season or two, many even less than that. Feltmans could also serve 10,000 meals at a sitting, so I don't think a couple of tiny shops will last long next to them!

Quote:I like that overhead view of the coaster- 4 layers of track stacked on top of each other! And, is that eagle balloon always on top of the Flying Eagles ride? This is the first time I've seen it there, yet it's such a natural place for it. (Sorry, I don't have the game, so sometimes I ask questions with obvious answers.)

Yeah, I added it recently, as well as a "now open" sign on the eagle, so it appears to be a new ride.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Bullethead on July 11, 2019, 07:32 PM
Skiphaul Industries got the contract for that tear down job on the Bowery, and are clearing out the lot;

This, like the ride under construction, is one of my favorite parts of the whole thing.  They show the circle of life and make the place and make it more alive.

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Fantastic job Bullethead!

Thanks!  I enjoyed the challenge.  You did all the really hard stuff, getting it to fit the footprint and working around the damnable PC station, I mostly just took same sandpaper to it :).  I'm very flattered you let me contribute so directly to this epic project :D

I was fortunate enough to take a ride on BH's new and improved Tornado Bobs, and I concur he did a fantastic job.

Much appreciated ;).  But Rich still did all the heavy lifting.  At least 90% of the track is his original work.

I like that overhead view of the coaster- 4 layers of track stacked on top of each other!

Glad you like it.  That was the only part of the layout I made a real change to, and it was quite a challenge due to the cramped space.  Rich's layout also had 4 layers there, just in a different order of stacking.  It's a total tangle either way.  The guy who built the real thing was a mad genius ;)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: Berlin87 on July 16, 2019, 04:44 AM
Man, your park is packed with charm. Really nice, like how tight everything is.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 - Acknowledgements!
Post by: citytrader on July 20, 2019, 06:35 AM
Thank  you Berlin!

"I think we set the time circuits wrong. Again!"

(https://i.imgur.com/Ov2Sn1P.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on July 29, 2019, 03:56 AM
The Spanish Ballroom is loosely based on the actual restored ballroom of the same name at Glen Echo Park just outside of Washington, D.C. in Maryland. The building is typical of many such venues that were built during the first several decades of the 20th century;

(https://i.imgur.com/6Tk77S7.jpg)

Here is my recreation;

(https://i.imgur.com/JgHz8Ny.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HSGC6YO.jpg)

Mine is a bit more ornate. I think I may redo the cross decoration, to make it a bit smaller.

Here is the link;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1818210141

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: JB on July 29, 2019, 03:44 PM
Quote: "I think I may redo the cross decoration, to make it a bit smaller."

Either that, or just scatter a few tulips around and call it a windmill. :D  That little balcony in the real photo gives the building added interest- a bit of Moorish acrhitecture. Have you considered adding one to your version? Very nice façade with the three arched doors; both, day and night.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on July 29, 2019, 07:29 PM
Thank you for the excellent suggestions! The blueprint has been updated as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/eJDlPlJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on August 09, 2019, 01:20 PM
Here's a Rotor;

(https://i.imgur.com/ig82Gqy.jpg)

It's just a facade, but I think it looks pretty good!

Here's my model;

(https://i.imgur.com/z1tPtIC.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: JB on August 09, 2019, 08:52 PM
The Rotor looks nice. :)  Too bad they don't have an actual, working flat ride (yet?). I know shyguy used the Round-Up ride to simulate his version. Is there anything inside to attract guests? Like restrooms or something?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on August 10, 2019, 04:03 AM
Thanks for your question!

Yes, I tried the Centrum, but found it too big and bulky for what I was trying to build. My "rotor" is just a castle round tower, which is about the correct size. Still tinkering with the look of the ride, (would love to add that front balcony), and trying to figure out a good way to make it interactive. So, no, at this time, it's just a facade.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: Twisted on August 10, 2019, 04:29 AM
Love this park!
You really got the atmosphere nailed down.
Also i love the boardwalk, and the buildings
Very nice work!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 10, 2019, 05:09 AM
Another example where some "creative liberties" were necessary.  Your version is much more interesting to look at than the original :D 

Maybe adding another half-story or so of height to your structure would give you enough clearance for that balcony?  I agree, it would definitely make for a nice detail. 

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on August 10, 2019, 06:50 AM
Love this park!
You really got the atmosphere nailed down.
Also i love the boardwalk, and the buildings
Very nice work!

Thank you so much!

Another example where some "creative liberties" were necessary.  Your version is much more interesting to look at than the original :D 

Maybe adding another half-story or so of height to your structure would give you enough clearance for that balcony?  I agree, it would definitely make for a nice detail.

Thank you for the compliment! The issue, because of the nature of the ride, I am using the coaster walls to get that half wall effect, so I am limited in my clearance height. I did a little more tinkering and detailing, and I think I like the way this is progressing;

(https://i.imgur.com/rcGs4Oq.jpg)

I added reinforcement to the top and bottom of the barrel, as well as the stripes for some visual interest. I also added the canopy with the columns.

Still looking for some better graphics for the wall decorations.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2019, 02:29 PM
The stripes really bring the 'drum' to life and helps sell the illusion that this is a real ride. :)  Polka-dots on the walls, maybe? Or even on the drum.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: wabigbear on August 11, 2019, 09:27 AM
JBAlmighT has a nice Rotor model in the workshop, perhaps he'd allow you to tweak the exterior a little to widen the balcony his has to look more like the original in the photo?  Maybe move the stairs to the sides a little and change the exterior a bit so it's a little plainer and I think it would turn out really close...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1097498398
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on August 11, 2019, 09:41 AM
Thanks Wagi! Also, thanks JB for the dots idea! Turned out nice.

I think I like the way mine has turned out. It's pretty small, only three tiles wide, which is what I wanted. My stairs do lead to an observation deck. If memory serves, they would charge full price to ride and half price to watch!

Added a few new details, a floor and roof. Still not functional, but you could drop a toilet or something in there to draw peeps.

(https://i.imgur.com/y4uxhmo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/A8xBrZm.jpg)

I also added some emergency lights which rotate on the drum. Looks cool!

https://i.imgur.com/UxRUJBj.mp4
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 11, 2019, 02:38 PM
Ooh, the dots and the lights are great adds.  Very clever!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: JB on August 11, 2019, 03:18 PM
I agree. The moving lights are a great idea. :up:  Can the lights be made to move horizontally rather than vertically? To make the drum look more like it's spinning around? And since I'm being a nitpicking pest :n00b:, how about adding a loudspeaker (does PC have those? Can you add your own audio loops?) with a sound loop playing the whirring sound of the drum and shrieks and screams from the riders. Hey, if you can't have a real, working ride then ya gotta do everything you can to make it seem as real as possible, right? :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on August 11, 2019, 04:46 PM
And since I'm being a nitpicking pest :n00b:, how about adding a loudspeaker (does PC have those? Can you add your own audio loops?)

Ha Ha. If you look in the video, there are speakers mounted in the corners of the opening. I had it playing some techno music. Never thought of adding ride effects! Clever idea with the lights, I'll try it!

EDIT; Looks great!

https://i.imgur.com/HyXHZZf.mp4

Uploaded to Workshop;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1832223543


Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 7/29!
Post by: citytrader on August 17, 2019, 01:26 PM
Wagi does it again!

One of the more interesting attractions at Coney Island was the Dive Bells, a pair of enclosed vehicles which raised and lowered into a pool filled with various sea life. As far as I can tell, this was basically a swimming pool, which made it easier for the staff to maintain and look after the fish and other animals within the tank.

Wagi sent me the basic structure, I added fences and a few details, as well as the pump house. Also, a very big shout out to willibix, who released the portholes and doors for the diving bells.

Here's the real ride;

(https://i.imgur.com/8OQ1POW.jpg)

Here's the recreation;

(https://i.imgur.com/yM16xoI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KqGIaq7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CYfwC1n.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: shyguy on August 17, 2019, 02:00 PM
Love the Dive Bell. Great job to both of you!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: wabigbear on August 17, 2019, 03:34 PM
willibix's portholes and doors made all the difference!  Did you stick a shark in the water Rich?  Gotta keep those ride employees on their toes...
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JB on August 17, 2019, 04:26 PM
What a unique and interesting attraction to add to your park. I wonder if the Bells took turns lowering into the swimming pool tank? Also, if the inside of the tank was themed to look sort of ocean-like, with cement rocks, coral, and plants? Was it fresh water, or salt water?

*JB puts on his nitpicky pest hat again*- Maybe show one of the Bells already lowered into the tank? (To make the ride look less static; like it's in use... Ooh! Maybe have water dripping off the other one, like it was just raised up.)

A wonderful collaborative effort on all your parts. (Hmm, that didn't sound quite right.)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on August 17, 2019, 07:13 PM
Love the Dive Bell. Great job to both of you!

Thanks! Would love to see your progress on your boardwalk park!

willibix's portholes and doors made all the difference!  Did you stick a shark in the water Rich?  Gotta keep those ride employees on their toes...

I guess you'll just have to see!

*JB puts on his nitpicky pest hat again*- Maybe show one of the Bells already lowered into the tank? (To make the ride look less static; like it's in use... Ooh! Maybe have water dripping off the other one, like it was just raised up.)

A wonderful collaborative effort on all your parts. (Hmm, that didn't sound quite right.)

I have very little information on this attraction, but I assume it's salt water, and yes, they probably had some fake vegetation and coral in the tank, as well as fish.

Clever idea showing the bells in operation! What do you think?

(https://i.imgur.com/gnwN7i2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LXThzxQ.jpg)

I added some water and bubble effects as well as ride operators and control panels. Threw in a few patrons for good measure.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JB on August 17, 2019, 08:57 PM
Dr. Frankenstein: "It's ALIVE!". All the additions really brought the ride to life. That's just how I pictured it. :)  (And why is that ride operator staring at us? :o)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JPAlmighT on August 22, 2019, 06:59 PM
Extremely clever and original.  Great job to both of you!!   :up: :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on August 31, 2019, 03:39 PM
Another new business opens in Coney Island!

Check out these beautiful new 1952 models!

(https://i.imgur.com/m1HHzCA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cpLL2d2.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JB on August 31, 2019, 05:37 PM
The architectural style of your auto sales building is a good representation of the buildings of that period; with a nod to ornimentation but not overly so. I like the flag banner across the front. I can't remember, did they have all the balloons, whirligigs, etc. in car lots in the '50s? Or did that come later. I wonder if that car in your billboard image really came in that vibrant green color.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on August 31, 2019, 07:50 PM
Thanks. I got the idea for the car dealership from a picture I found from a period model railroad, so I assume it's pretty accurate.

(https://i.imgur.com/EAPlPkk.jpg)

The billboard is for the 1952 Victoria, which eventually became the LTD and then the Crown Victoria, one of Ford's best selling models ever!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: wabigbear on September 01, 2019, 04:07 AM
A nice addition!  What car dealership could ignore the crowds that Coney Island would bring past?
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JPAlmighT on September 01, 2019, 05:06 AM
A great addition.  I really like using model railroad buildings as inspiration for my builds, and that picture especially worked out great for source material.   :up:
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on September 01, 2019, 07:07 PM
Thanks guys!

Here's a shot of the finished structure at night;

(https://i.imgur.com/Kig3Ar8.jpg)

Ravenhall Baths was one of the largest bath houses in Coney Island. It supposedly had an olympic sized pool inside, as well as dozens of saunas, several weight rooms, nearly 50 steam cabinets, as well as changing rooms and lockers for rent.

(https://i.imgur.com/f0f6PFC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xZ3V7Uz.jpg)

Built for working class people, it was not as fancy or extravagant as some of the other bath  houses on the boardwalk. It covers nearly an entire city block!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JB on September 01, 2019, 09:01 PM
I was hoping you would show a night shot of the car lot; I wanted to see what the cars looked like inside the showroom. Mr. Manager looks kinda forlorn standing out front, after dark, by himself, with no foot traffic in sight. And those cars out in the lot are gonna have dead batteries in a couple hours. :P

I'm guessing Ravenhall Baths disappeared many years ago? (What is the word after "Bathing", Park?)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on September 02, 2019, 04:19 AM
Yes, park. As far as I am aware, all the old bath houses are now gone. I believe Ravenhall was torn down in the 1960s. Child restaurant has been fully restored, and looks gorgeous.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7116/7734915576_8889189daf.jpg)

Childs before;

(http://s14.therealdeal.com/trd/up/2013/04/Childs-Restaurant.jpg)

After;

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/3YLRXbTUHFMEgR3A1vf1q-hfyGo=/0x0:5312x2988/1200x800/filters:focal(2232x1070:3080x1918)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/54821009/20170516_135601.0.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: Cinestri0 on September 02, 2019, 08:29 AM
I like this park because it's like a history lesson and a beautiful park on Planet Coaster all in one! :P
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: wabigbear on September 03, 2019, 04:19 AM
Ravenhall really turned out well! Very authentic looking...great way to cover a lot of territory too!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JB on September 03, 2019, 02:17 PM
The old, rundown Child's Restaurant (minus the graffiti) in the photo would have made an excellent darkride façade. But the spiffed up version looks nice too, and it preserved the building.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: Crow on September 04, 2019, 07:16 PM
Rich and Wagi collaborating on an awesome park?
Feel like I walked through a time machine, getting a real nostalgia boner here, but pretend I said whatever the non-creepy way of saying that is instead. ;)

Looking forward to going through all this!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: wabigbear on September 06, 2019, 04:40 AM
Actually more of a "Wagi pawns off an occasional building on poor Rich" - type park than a collab...99.9% of this is all Rich's inventiveness...so blame him!   :mad:up:

I just point out the occasional misplaced object and provide snide commentary...I know my strengths.

And don't worry...we all reach that age where it is indeed "nostalgia"...right Rich?   ???
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on September 06, 2019, 04:21 PM
Rich and Wagi collaborating on an awesome park?
Feel like I walked through a time machine, getting a real nostalgia boner here, but pretend I said whatever the non-creepy way of saying that is instead. ;)

Looking forward to going through all this!
Hey Crow! Long time no see! Hope all is well!

Actually more of a "Wagi pawns off an occasional building on poor Rich" - type park than a collab...99.9% of this is all Rich's inventiveness...so blame him!   :mad:up:

I just point out the occasional misplaced object and provide snide commentary...I know my strengths.

And don't worry...we all reach that age where it is indeed "nostalgia"...right Rich?   ???

 ;D Too funny!

Actually, a very large number of people have contributed stuff to this park. Probably too many to list. And holy cow, I must have stolen dozens of things off of the Workshop, and even a number of Frontier blueprints!  ::)

And, yeah, to me, nostalgia is just a word I use when I refer to my middle age!!!  :yes:

So I had to tear up one city block when I discovered that I had incorrectly placed the Bank of Coney Island. I think I got it right now! The actual building was razed in 2010;

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/4552965360_be63190689.jpg)

My version;

(https://i.imgur.com/3sfkiNt.jpg)

Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: shyguy on September 06, 2019, 05:16 PM
I love your use of billboards throughout this project. They really add so much to giving the park that perfect vintage look.
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: citytrader on September 07, 2019, 08:27 AM
Thank you shyguy! Believe me, a lot or research goes into this recreation!

Nearly complete;

(https://i.imgur.com/T5WAYhl.jpg)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: Plokoon111 on September 07, 2019, 05:36 PM
It's been a while since I ventured in this forum; but this looks great! Love the vintage feel you have brought Citytrader!
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: corkscrewloop on September 08, 2019, 05:07 AM
This project is so fantastic! All these fantastic buildings and this amazing atmosphere... Every update is pure pleasure to look at! Can't wait to see more! :)
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: Cinestri0 on September 08, 2019, 07:49 AM
That overview >>>
Title: Re: Coney Island 1950 -Update 8/17 - Wagi strikes again!
Post by: JPAlmighT on September 08, 2019, 07:59 AM
The overview is great, but having seen an earlier version of the park in person, this even more recent overhead doesn't do justice to the amazing scope on this place.   It really does feel huge when you're walking the streets.  (Hey CT, if you "need" me to "test" it again, just say the word :P)

Can't wait to see what becomes of those remaining green spaces :D